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pauldhunt avatar pauldhunt commented on May 28, 2024

will be improved in next release.

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adrientetar avatar adrientetar commented on May 28, 2024

Why do geometric shapes have to be that big? It you look at how they are used in typesetting e.g. for dictionaries (see below), they need to have at most ~ height of capital letters (this is the case with Hoefler fonts Mercury & Chronicle, for instance – or Collins Fedra).
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moyogo avatar moyogo commented on May 28, 2024

This is what the glyphs mentioned look like in 1.050:
source sans pro - geometric shapes - 1 050

This is what the glyphs mentioned look like in 2.010:
source sans pro - geometric shapes - 2 010

All the geometric shapes are now much larger and are so in a consistent manner. This matches their design in Source Han Sans fonts.

@adrientetar the black square in your example is closer to x-height than cap-height.

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adrientetar avatar adrientetar commented on May 28, 2024

I think Source Serif Pro does it right:

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I don't use Source Han Sans, the only thing I can say is that the current geometric symbols of Source Sans Pro just seem too large to be used in Latin publications. @pauldhunt @frankrolf

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pauldhunt avatar pauldhunt commented on May 28, 2024

I’ll look at this again. It will help to know what the common use cases for these are in Western publications.

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adrientetar avatar adrientetar commented on May 28, 2024

The Mercury Text specimen slider presents some examples of uses.

Square is often used as end of paragraph mark, as list or overall decorative marker.

Some fonts even include variants of squares, diamond and circles fitted to the xheight as my example from a previous comment shows. Had a thread about this – FF Franziska has some fuss in this domain too.

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These marks are used in running text so they imo shouldn't be larger than capitals.

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moyogo avatar moyogo commented on May 28, 2024

Based on "End Marks" and the illustration in https://books.google.com/books?id=dEbaAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT215 it should probably be enough to reduce the size of ■ 25A0 BLACK SQUARE and the likes a little bit and add ▪ 25AA BLACK SMALL SQUARE, ◼ 25FC BLACK MEDIUM SQUARE and some others.

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adrientetar avatar adrientetar commented on May 28, 2024

The current black square of Source Sans Pro looks more like U+2B1B than U+25A0.

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erniemarch avatar erniemarch commented on May 28, 2024

These have noticeably changed size in 3.006

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