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stevenvandenbrandenstift avatar stevenvandenbrandenstift commented on September 15, 2024

well this seems very interesting, you know what their plans are with regard to totem?

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stevenvandenbrandenstift avatar stevenvandenbrandenstift commented on September 15, 2024

also about the indicator plugins , are they making a time indicator without ubunutu deps?

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alucryd avatar alucryd commented on September 15, 2024

The problem with this is that the GCC plug depends on libgnome-control-center which is not shipped anymore with upstream GCC. As usual, Ubuntu thought best to revert the relevant commit and continue shipping it, thus people continue to use it even though it's no longer supported upstream. By doing the same, I would be taking responsibility for every issue it might lead to (because I am technically becoming upstream in this regard), and I don't want that. Therefore, this is never gonna end up on Arch Linux, even on AUR.

That being said, I've uploaded libgnome-control-center using the same hack, as well as switchboard-plug-gcc-bzr in 'pantheon/', you can play with it if you want. Note that it crashes here, seems like an upstream issue (I can see similar reports on their bug tracker), but the GCC plugins do appear in switchboard. As I said, I'm not supporting this so I won't be looking into why it doesn't work, however, I can make the necessary changes if somebody finds out why it doesn't.

About totem, the default video player in Pantheon is audience so no totem plans afaik, both suck anyway imho (because gstreamer sucks, at least for video playback). As for the time indicator, all indicators have ubuntu deps, so no. The only way out of this is to stop using indicators and code in-house plugins for wingpanel. See my question over there, no answer in 4 days :(

https://answers.launchpad.net/wingpanel/+question/246866

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beta992 avatar beta992 commented on September 15, 2024

Hi alucryd,

Thanks for posting and getting this to work. I'm really glad to hear that you want to keep things as vanilla as possible, even when it sometimes seems impossible. I really hope the eOS devs going to switch to more vanilla kind of solutions, but at the mean time this has become more hacking.

About the issue you posted about wingpanel; since the 0.3.x branch included only that 'panel-bg' change, it may be possible to commit (port) those changes to the trunk branch instead. I don't know the reason why their is a more recent version of libindicator/ido is needed, maybe it's not that needed for the panel and it just has been done to work with the latest version(s). Will try to contact to devs also, but I think you know more then me about these issues. :)

I would also like if you could take a look at my repo, I have added packages like elementary-default-settings and changed wallpapers to the default instead of community, etc. It would be great if you could include (some) of these things to your branch (because this is the one I also want to use :P)

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alucryd avatar alucryd commented on September 15, 2024

I just added pantheon-backkgrounds-bzr (chose that name because we already have gnome-backgrounds and mate-backgrounds in our repos), as well as pantheon-default-settings-bzr (pantheon instead of elementary because I might as well be consistent). There were more to the default settings than the gsettings override so I've added them in there too, now creating a new user and logging in gives you the same you'd get on eOS.

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beta992 avatar beta992 commented on September 15, 2024

Thanks alucryd! Going to test the things out. :D

Another suggestion: it would be great if you can add: group('pantheon') to your PKG's. :)
This will make it easier to remove/reinstall.

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alucryd avatar alucryd commented on September 15, 2024

I was planning to add groups when there is something stable to package as a whole, so when I have a stable version of every Pantheon component. I'm not sure what issues adding groups to a mix of stable and bzr packages will raise, and I can't add groups to the few stable packages in [community] for now (got a complaint that they are still to few to have their own group). Right now, explicitely installing pantheon-session-bzr will pull most of the things you need, and uninstalling it will pull them out if you 'pacman -Rns'.

I'll be closing this issue, I think the rest of the discussion had best be on the forum thread. I'll also add a link to this issue over there.

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