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Assasans avatar Assasans commented on May 18, 2024 1

I know only the fact that ProTanki are made by the same developers as GTanks, which were closed 1 year after release of ProTanki.

I made a chart of Tanks projects earlier (grayed out - closed / unmaintained):

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Kleins0 avatar Kleins0 commented on May 18, 2024 1

The newer version of tanki, people are not as intrigued with very old tanki nowadays.

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

BTW a fully working protocol implementation:
https://github.com/WolverinDEV/protanki-protocol-rs

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Assasans avatar Assasans commented on May 18, 2024

Hello, I glanced over packets and am interested in further development.
I'd like to rewrite the server in Rust because I don't have enough computational resources for JVM-targeted development right now.

I also saw DaniloPalmeira/protanki-server, which works with new protocol.

Thank you for creating definitions for all packets.

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

Well running rust analyser is most likely way heavier then spinning up a JVM 🤕
But I do understand your reasoning.

It's interesting how many starting approaches exist writing the server from scratch :D
I'll probably keep the protocol files updated on the protanki-protocol-rs repo and complete documenting the yet unknown packet ids.

BTW do you know a little bit about the history of pro tanki and so on?
I'm pretty new to all this kind of stuff. (PS: I'm also in your DC)

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

Ahh that's a pretty need chart. Are you sure that GTanks is a reimplementation of the original TO or just their source updated?
As well why did GTanks close?

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Kleins0 avatar Kleins0 commented on May 18, 2024

As well why did GTanks close?

Their online was at very low spots, with often times where there was 0 players online.
P.S they didn't care anymore because of their success with ProTanki.

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

Ahh reasonable. So ProTanki is just the more popular version of GTanks, right?

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

Can you estimate how popular ProTanki is?

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Kleins0 avatar Kleins0 commented on May 18, 2024

3000 active players at a time*

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

Hui that's ~50 % of the regular Tanks player base

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Assasans avatar Assasans commented on May 18, 2024

I have 2018 version of GTanks' client & server and it uses same protocol as ProTanki before update (why would they use hacky text protocol if original TO always used binary protocol).
Also, the GTanks codebase is a lot smaller than official Tanki Online's (I have Alternativa_Projects.rar archive that was leaked in 2010).

Decompiled server code

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As well why did GTanks close?

There were too few new players. When you reached one of the first ranks you had battles with only high-rank players that kept constantly killing low-ranks, though they gave away crystal drop you still wouldn't be able to rank up.

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Assasans avatar Assasans commented on May 18, 2024

BTW a fully working protocol implementation: https://github.com/WolverinDEV/protanki-protocol-rs

By the way, may I use your code in this repository under MIT / Apache 2.0 dual license?

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

@Assasans the argument with the protocol is pretty reasonable.
The more I dig trough the more easy does it seem to create a pretty simple TO server.
As far as I can the, the hardest would be implementing an anticheat (which PT has btw.).

@Assasans would you mind sharing the old gtanks server with me?
As PT and GTanks are developed by the same person? there might be some insights of what measures they take to enforce "proper" game play.

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Kleins0 avatar Kleins0 commented on May 18, 2024

@Assasans the argument with the protocol is pretty reasonable.
The more I dig trough the more easy does it seem to create a pretty simple TO server.
As far as I can the, the hardest would be implementing an anticheat (which PT has btw.).

@Assasans would you mind sharing the old gtanks server with me?
As PT and GTanks are developed by the same person? there might be some insights of what measures they take to enforce "proper" game play.

the protanki anticheat is very poorly made

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

By the way, may I use your code in this repository under MIT / Apache 2.0 dual license?

Used MIT.
If I may ask, what are your intensions?

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Assasans avatar Assasans commented on May 18, 2024

@Assasans would you mind sharing the old gtanks server with me?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rWv-D_kfZeTnxPOdYrDjI2viLrwT4F4o/view
But they did some updates to ProTanki anticheat after we raided them with my patched client.

Used MIT. If I may ask, what are your intensions?

If you're about licensing - just because it's common to the Rust ecosystem (though I always used MIT only)
If you're about the code itself - to have all core components in one place and easily editable (bypassing PRs, especially if the change is relevant for this server only).

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WolverinDEV avatar WolverinDEV commented on May 18, 2024

Ahh thank you :)

to have all core components in one place and easily editable

You can just create a fork :)

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radiomonter avatar radiomonter commented on May 18, 2024

GTanks 2018
Good afternoon. Could you share this source code for the server and client?

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Gerbariy1 avatar Gerbariy1 commented on May 18, 2024

@Assasans would you mind sharing the old gtanks server with me?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rWv-D_kfZeTnxPOdYrDjI2viLrwT4F4o/view But they did some updates to ProTanki anticheat after we raided them with my patched client.

Used MIT. If I may ask, what are your intensions?

If you're about licensing - just because it's common to the Rust ecosystem (though I always used MIT only) If you're about the code itself - to have all core components in one place and easily editable (bypassing PRs, especially if the change is relevant for this server only).

Can you re-upload the file, please
Можешь перезалить файл? Пожалуйста

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