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sskaug avatar sskaug commented on July 30, 2024

Now, I don't know much about gimbal motors, but I thought maybe they are normally operated as stepper motors? And I'm pretty sure brushless motor ESCs are not suited to drive them.

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arlarson-tuska avatar arlarson-tuska commented on July 30, 2024

As far as I know the motor I'm using is a 14 pole 114kv brushless motor. You would typically buy a gimbal control board which drives the motors using an L6234d 3 phase brushless motor driver IC. The reason I'm not trying to avoid buying a completed board is because this is an educational research project for my university. The last step of the project is finding a reliable way control the motors. Not sure if blheli will work or not for this but either way thanks for the help sskaug!

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zobotek avatar zobotek commented on July 30, 2024

Try to start with open source gimbal SW instead of propulsion controller SW. It's available. The SW goals are precision positioning and holding torque so the motors are higher Z and the modulation algorithm is quite different. I know of no reason why standard BMC HW would not work. Typically accelerometers and gyros are added for stabilization unless the platform is rock stable.

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As far as I know the motor I'm using is a 14 pole 114kv brushless motor. You would typically buy a gimbal control board which drives the motors using an L6234d 3 phase brushless motor driver IC. The reason I'm not trying to avoid buying a completed board is because this is an educational research project for my university. The last step of the project is finding a reliable way control the motors. Not sure if blheli will work or not for this but either way thanks for the help sskaug!


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com//issues/36#issuecomment-70886902.

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sim- avatar sim- commented on July 30, 2024

Gimbal motors are just brushless motors with many turns to give them high enough inductance that a reasonable PWM range from a typical battery voltage can be used, and are driven sinusoidally and blindly (without any motor feedback). There are some cases of ESCs being used to drive them, including some firmware for, e.g., bs_nfet.hex-compatible ESCs (from OlliW, see http://www.olliw.eu/2013/brushless-gimbal-direct-drive/), but the hardware is kind of not really right for the purpose, since they barely needs to support a few Amperes, and you need to support one motor for every axis, which is probably better done with a single MCU that has a lot of hardware PWM channels or similar.

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arlarson-tuska avatar arlarson-tuska commented on July 30, 2024

Zobotek - do you have any links to open source gimbal SW? Right now we are using an arduino pro mini with an mpu6050 for the IMU.

Sim- At the moment we are using an Arduino pro mini for our IMU. Wouldn't we need some sort of transistor for the signals to the motor. The pro mini as far as I know can only supply 40mA per pin which wouldn't be enough to drive it directly. It looks like OlliW is using a TC4427 which I'll take a look at.
Thanks for the help guys.

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zobotek avatar zobotek commented on July 30, 2024

I can’t give you better info than you could get from a search engine.

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Zobotek - do you have any links to open source gimbal SW? Right now we are using an arduino pro mini with an mpu6050 for the IMU.

Sim- At the moment we are using an Arduino pro mini for our IMU. Wouldn't we need some sort of transistor for the signals to the motor. The pro mini as far as I know can only supply 40mA per pin which wouldn't be enough to drive it directly. It looks like OlliW is using a TC4427 which I'll take a look at.
Thanks for the help guys.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com//issues/36#issuecomment-71124500.

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sskaug avatar sskaug commented on July 30, 2024

Closing

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