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geofflangdale avatar geofflangdale commented on June 30, 2024

I think it would be helpful to rework the results in terms of characters per cycle/nanosecond (or the reciprocal of that) - possibly a time-based approach is better since the machine used for the benchmarks is an Turbo Legend (the famous 8086K, base at 2.8Ghz but turbo at 5.0). Use cycles if you can get consistent results and use performance counters, otherwise use time.

Measurements that involve tasks of unknown length ("how long is a sentence") are hard to understand.

It's my belief that your workloads are quite large - I would be surprised if Hyperscan can handle the bigger ones nearly as well as you can. Similarly, the 'match rates' (number of matches per sentence/character) are quite high relative to the target applications of Hyperscan. However, we can probably imagine some purpose-built Rabin-Karp style matching algorithms that may achieve good parallelism, as well as some up with some better was to get parallelism in Aho-Corasick. But first, it would be good to figure out where you are.

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kampersanda avatar kampersanda commented on June 30, 2024

Thank you for your comments.

Measurements that involve tasks of unknown length ("how long is a sentence") are hard to understand.

With your comment, we noticed that we did not provide statistics about the length of sentences. To supplement it, we created a page that provides those statistics.

https://github.com/daac-tools/daachorse/wiki/Supplemental-statistics-for-SPE-paper

We will consider your other helpful comments when we have time.

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geofflangdale avatar geofflangdale commented on June 30, 2024

Thank you for your prompt response. This is very helpful.

From a strictly byte-based perspective, and just picking one case - bytewise, EnWord, 1K Strings (Table 7) we can see 527ms for 1M sentences. Thus, with 60.5 bytes per sentence and 1M sentences we have 8.7ns per character (almost doubling as we go up to 1M strings, which is very good scaling!).

If the benchmarking was single core and the processor was not prevented from using Turbo, I would expect this to be 43.5 cycles per character on average. Without turbo, as the base speed of 2.8Ghz, it would be around 24 cycles per character.

I would expect that other algorithms outside the realm of Aho-Corasick would significantly outperform this, particularly for the smaller cases (1K or 10K strings).

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kampersanda avatar kampersanda commented on June 30, 2024

Thank you very much for the useful observation!

Very interesting. When handling such smaller pattern sets in our applications, we'd like to try other algorithms (such as Rabin-Karp-based).

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