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raiden-social avatar raiden-social commented on June 15, 2024 1

I actually like the power icon, but I think dots would also work well.
They are already used in the connection details.
In addition, an existing connection is also displayed with a green dot if a user holds the pointer over an account.
I think there are three basic variants.

  1. Only a green dot is used to indicate that an account is active.
    All others without a dot are therefore inactive.
  2. Both active and inactive accounts have a dot. Green could be for the active account and red for the inactive ones. Dark red would also be possible instead, as it looks a little more subtle.
    What speaks in favor of red is that it is already used to indicate a missing connection.
    In addition, many devices indicate the standby status with a red light.
    The argument against red is that users who suffer from red-green blindness cannot distinguish the dots.
    Maybe blue or gray could be an alternative.
  3. It would also be possible to mark only the inactive accounts with a dot.

I created an image with the different options.

Overview Dots

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raiden-social avatar raiden-social commented on June 15, 2024 1

what about the unread message counter?

I somehow thought of DC-iOS and forgot that in DC-Desktop the counter is at the bottom right.
But the third option is still possible.
Maybe the counter could also be placed at the top right like in DC-iOS.
This way the two versions would be more consistent.
But as I said above, I actually think the power icon is quite good.
Apple Mail uses flashes to show inactive accounts.
This might also be an option if the power icon is not wanted.

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Simon-Laux avatar Simon-Laux commented on June 15, 2024

“Only Sync Selected Account” (tooltip could read "Synced when selected" then)

That wording is not clear enough to me what it does. But I agree that the experimental settings should be off by default.

About the power button, for me the question mark is more confusing, as it to me it feels like that delta chat has a bug or fault and thus can not find out how many new messages exist.
The grey power button might not be ideal and a different disconnected icon could be better, but I don't agree with the question mark. also note that the icon will only appear on accounts that you specifically disabled background sync on in the future.

Other programs also use a power icon to symbolise that sth is turned off:

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Simon-Laux avatar Simon-Laux commented on June 15, 2024

so, as the option as such should stay experimental

only as long as it is not implemented via core, I plan that for the next release after 1.44, so 1.46. It is not complicated just a bit of code in the account manager and removing code that starts/stops io from desktop ui code.

as soon as it is implemented by core we won't need the setting anymore, we can think about:

  • A. whether migrate existing users of that setting, by disabling all accounts
  • B. or we can just remove the setting, leaving all accounts enabled by default
  • C. B, but send a device message with a screenshot of the context menu on the account where it can be deactivated for background.

nb: An Option to put it offline completely could also be interesting for accounts of deleted email addresses so you can keep it as archive without spamming the log with can not connect messages, but maybe this could also be solved by a smarter connectivity algorithm that stops on 100 failed attempts until you start it again manually in the settings?

Would be better to make multiple issues, one for wording of the option and one for the icon and one for naming.

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Simon-Laux avatar Simon-Laux commented on June 15, 2024

about the icon, maybe a snowflake or sth similar could also be an idea, though I would associate freezing with readonly.

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Simon-Laux avatar Simon-Laux commented on June 15, 2024

@raiden-social what about the unread message counter?

Though I like that you went through the effort to make mockups, they look pretty

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