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matze338 avatar matze338 commented on July 21, 2024

I recognaice exactly the same issue :/

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vaandefanel avatar vaandefanel commented on July 21, 2024

Same issue too.

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rautesamtr avatar rautesamtr commented on July 21, 2024

Currently ssi is not really calculated if bellow 70°F since it's meant for higher temperatures.

async def simmer_index(self) -> float:
"""<https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/rklarsen/Summer+Simmer+Index>."""
fahrenheit = TemperatureConverter.convert(
self._temperature, UnitOfTemperature.CELSIUS, UnitOfTemperature.FAHRENHEIT
)
si = (
1.98
* (fahrenheit - (0.55 - (0.0055 * self._humidity)) * (fahrenheit - 58.0))
- 56.83
)
if fahrenheit < 70:
si = fahrenheit
return round(TemperatureConverter.convert(si, UnitOfTemperature.FAHRENHEIT, UnitOfTemperature.CELSIUS), 2)

Not my code but it's a good idea to discuss how to handle such situations in this issue.

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Traxeronus avatar Traxeronus commented on July 21, 2024

Hi,
I'm bit lost why? 70F is standard room temperature and when I try to calculate it using some of ssi calculators (f.e. https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/rklarsen/Summer+Simmer+Index), it shows me the right value.
There should be no temp limitation.
Or am I mistaking?
M.

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rautesamtr avatar rautesamtr commented on July 21, 2024

@lymanepp do you remember why you added the temp limit?

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lymanepp avatar lymanepp commented on July 21, 2024

@lymanepp do you remember why you added the temp limit?

The limit should be 58° F degrees instead of 70° F. That was an error in my implementation. I'll submit a PR to fix it.

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Traxeronus avatar Traxeronus commented on July 21, 2024

Please, can you explain why the limit at all? The calculation of SSI has no limit and can count with lower values. Thanks

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lymanepp avatar lymanepp commented on July 21, 2024

Please, can you explain why the limit at all? The calculation of SSI has no limit and can count with lower values. Thanks

SSI is a form of heat index and was not designed for lower temperatures. The SSI author only presents results for temperatures above 70° F. But my implementation from around 15 years ago used 58° F as the cutoff value. I think I changed it to 70° F when implementing in HA to align with the author's descriptions of temperature ranges (slightly cool, etc).

@dolezsa I'll leave it to you to decide what (if any) lower bound to use here.

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lymanepp avatar lymanepp commented on July 21, 2024

I changed my local copy to use 58° F as the cutoff value and it looks much better as the SSI and air temperature converge together at that temperature. No more big jump at 70° F.

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