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allenwb avatar allenwb commented on May 22, 2024 3

I don't think ''first" is essential. It was there to distinguish it from future histories covering later periods.

How about the equivalent of:
JavaScript Biography: 1995 to 2015

(Of course in English I would use "history" instead of "biography")

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doodlewind avatar doodlewind commented on May 22, 2024 2

你好,这里的问题在于,"first" 是一个有强需求被保留的概念吗?

我们会根据实际的语境,去增加或删减语言成分,从而接近中文的语言习惯。据我自己的用语习惯,下面这两种表述:

  • 《JavaScript 前 20 年史》
  • 《JavaScript 前 20 年》

相比起

  • 《JavaScript 20 年史》
  • 《JavaScript 20 年》

前面两者似乎并不常见。就 JavaScript 来说,也没有「前 20 年」和「后 20 年」这样的歧义(我们会默认会从创建起开始吧)。如果陈述所能传递的信息是同等的,那么并不必保证逐字逐句层面的一致(否则会有明显的翻译腔问题)。

另外,Allen Wirfs-Brock 在正文完成后其实已经给过了 review 意见,我也据此调整了部分一二级章节的标题名,但没有收到针对全文名称的反馈。

不过这里只是陈述我的理解,对于「理想中的标题名」我也是持开放的态度哈。如果你觉得有更好的标题,也希望可以告知。

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flyyang avatar flyyang commented on May 22, 2024 1

《JavaScript: The First 20 Years》以上百页的篇幅,详细记述了 JavaScript 自 1995 至 2015 年间的演化故事。本项目将尝试搬运其内容到中文社区,方便更多同学接触这份兼有收藏与研究价值的史料。

The first 20 years,直译过来是第一个20年,对应1995-2015的时间线,the 有强调的意思。

《JavaScript 20 年》、《JavaScript 20 年史》,丢了first,就无法说清时间线,不够达。

我也觉得直译 《JavaScript: 第一个 20年》,不够雅。但是相对以上两个有以下两个优点:

  1. 直接表明了时间线。
  2. JavaScript 还有下一个20年,下一个100年等,暗示 JavaScript 的生命力顽强。

以上只是抛转,供参考。

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doodlewind avatar doodlewind commented on May 22, 2024

cc @allenwb How's your idea that if the "First" word in title contains message worth preserving?

Also, there was a suggestion from co-publisher that "JavaScript 20 年传" (translated back as "JavaScript: 20 Years Biography") could be used as an alternative, and that the word "biography" in Chinese would increase its authority and collection value. Wondering if you think it acceptable? Thanks.

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flyyang avatar flyyang commented on May 22, 2024

I like JavaScript Biography: 1995 to 2015.

Clear and precise.

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