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Let's stop squabbling and take it to a vote:
React 👍 for Blockly
React 👎 for #249
React ❤️ to keep the current system

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We should do things the easiest and most standard way possible, not the most fun way possible.
Plus, aren't we sort of violating DRY (don't repeat yourself) when we re-invent the wheel when we could just use the wheel somebody has already invented?

I feel like one of the unstated goals of this project was to have fun building it, if we wanted to do everything the most efficient way we would've started with a website template and Blockly and we never would've attempted a backend, but I also would've abandoned the project far sooner because building something from the ground-up is a lot more fun

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have fun

machine code

Hey, but your idea of fun is writing stuff from the ground up...

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still looks ugly.
(no offense to you, but blockly is inherently ugly, and unless you do something like scratch-blocks we can't do much about it.)

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NP. Just don't get stuck in the Hurd loop:

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Also, it's probably going to be a pretty annoying task, considering that we've even built a tutorial on top of Elemental already.

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I'll make an effort to keep the HTML working exactly the same way, then the tutorial should continue to function. And worst case I can rework them too

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I'm working on this

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Just a question:
Why not just use blockly?

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'cause I'm having too much fun doing it myself
also see #26

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also see #26

pls don't
i was so immature and ridiculous.

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lots of progress on this, it's still partially-done but I'm excited

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also see #26

pls don't
i was so immature and ridiculous.

😈

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hey, I was 14. 'nuf said

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What but you said you're 17 now

also I was also... different :P

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it was a couple months before i turned 15

or I was 15 and I just can't count :P

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To be 17 now you were 16 by 4/11/2016 and 15 by 4/11/2015 :P

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Srsly though, wouldn't it be much faster if we just used Blockly? They even have a block-making web interface!
Edit: I've already made the h1 and text blocks in Blockly (took me about an hour to understand how Blockly works by going through docs and stuff, but development will be pretty quick after you go through the docs and get a brief understanding of how everything works). Will push the code to GitHub later. It's here. The page can be found here (case sensitive, / needed at the end for some reason)

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But it's fun

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And Elemental's blocks look better.

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Thanks to... @PullJosh I think

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Can't we reskin the Blockly blocks?

Seriously, I think Blockly is the way to go here.

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But I'm having fuuuuun and I'm most of the way done anyway

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I can probably finish most of the blocks very quickly (most of the blocks follow a similar template).

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fun though

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fun

We should do things the easiest and most standard way possible, not the most fun way possible.
Plus, aren't we sort of violating DRY (don't repeat yourself) when we re-invent the wheel when we could just use the wheel somebody has already invented?

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I already have all of the blocks working fully, right now I'm working on file i/o

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I feel like one of the unstated goals of this project was to have fun building it

If our goals of the project were to have fun building it, maybe we should have built our own browser to implement our site in machine code from the ground up.

Also, do you have any specs for your implementation of the object system so we can all use it?

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have fun

machine code

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Go ahead and finish the PR before writing specs because there's probably still potential for change :P (assuming #249 is what we go with)

Also I really don't want to keep the current system because that stream-of-consciousness post I made caused me to realize the flaws the current system has... which would pretty much require a rewrite

The vote will provide the citation you request so I guess that works

also blockly is ugly and I can't find how to restyle it

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I can't react because mobile but

Fun

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also blockly is ugly and I can't find how to restyle it

It took some fiddling, but once I figured that the styling was put in blockly/core/css.js and the constants were put in blockly/core/constants.js, I put a white border around every block, changed the saturation and value of the CSV (which is hardcoded to keep things consistent, apparently) and changed up the background colors to create something like this:

The menu bar looks awful, but it's an improvement.

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But you can style blockly anyway you want. Like scratch-blocks did

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But if we have to go to all that trouble just to get OK looking blocks it would be easier to just keep what we already have.

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I understand it requires work but think about it.

Blockly gives you everything you need but only requires that you style it.
I personally think the benefits outweigh the cons.

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anyway [sic] you want

not as far as we've seen

we've pretty much decided to go with #249 based on the vote of past and current contributors

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Fun

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closing since #258 was merged

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