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swcheon avatar swcheon commented on September 25, 2024 6

Hello @ppeble, I'm a native Korean speaker.
First of all, Thank you for your active reaction. πŸ™‚

Here are my answers to the questions above.

  1. Can you help us understand the difference in the holiday names as they stand today?

    좔석 = Chuseok (More appropriate translation) = Korean Thanksgiving Day (Easy to understand in English)
    But, Google translated from 좔석 into Thansgiving. So, I suggested that It is more appropriate for Thanksgiving to be translated as Chuseok to Google Translator.

  2. Can you help us understand if our current definitions are correct?

    μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ (The day before New Year's Day)
    https://github.com/holidays/definitions/blob/master/kr.yaml#L77
    I think 30th day of Dec. should be changed to the last day of last year.

    On the lunar calendar, 2015-12-29 is the last day of year.
    On the lunar calendar, 2016-12-30 is the last day of year.
    The last day of the year in lunar calendar shifting from year to year.

    And If it is now,

    • Now (Wrong)
      μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ (The day before New Year's Day): lunar_to_solar(2017, 12, 30, :kr)
      μ„€λ‚  (on the Day of New Year's Day): lunar_to_solar(2017, 1, 1, :kr)
      μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ (The day after New Year's Day): lunar_to_solar(2017, 1, 2, :kr)

    • Correct
      μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ (The day before New Year's Day): lunar_to_solar(2016, 12, 30, :kr)
      μ„€λ‚  (on the Day of New Year's Day): lunar_to_solar(2017, 1, 1, :kr)
      μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ (The day after New Year's Day): lunar_to_solar(2017, 1, 2, :kr)

    I hope other native Korean speakers except me will make a confirmation.

  3. Can you help us understand why we need to repeat 'Chuseok Holidays' on the 14th and 16th but not the 15th, as defined?

    As the day before and the day after are also part of the holiday.
    To be more specific,
    14th day of August in lunar calendar: The day before Chuseok
    15th day of August in lunar calendar: on the Day of Chuseok
    16th day of August in lunar calendar: The day after Chuseok

    μ—°νœ΄ is a word collectively referring to these words(The day before Chuseok, The day after Chuseok).
    And, I think that would be better to change descriptions more specific.

    Day Before After
    The day before New Year's Day μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ μ„€λ‚  μ „λ‚ 
    The day after New Year's Day μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ μ„€λ‚  λ‹€μŒλ‚ 
    The day before Chuseok 좔석 μ—°νœ΄ 좔석 μ „λ‚ 
    The day after Chuseok 좔석 μ—°νœ΄ 좔석 λ‹€μŒλ‚ 

I am always thankful for your efforts and contributions. πŸ™‚

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ppeble avatar ppeble commented on September 25, 2024 1

@swcheon Thank you so much! I'm sorry that I didn't get back to this right away, just more baby stuff came up and I ran out of free time. πŸ˜„

I will take a look at this in the coming days and formulate a plan. Thank you again!

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yuuyeong avatar yuuyeong commented on September 25, 2024 1

@ppeble I agree with your suggestions. μ „λ‚  and λ‹€μŒλ‚  are more correct words. But I do not use that word in the real world. I think 좔석 μ—°νœ΄ is not so bad. How about using 좔석 μ—°νœ΄ as it is?

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swcheon avatar swcheon commented on September 25, 2024

@EunJung-Seo I think that is also good.

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marocchino avatar marocchino commented on September 25, 2024

if our current definitions are correct?

No, Current logic does not care Substitute holiday.
After 2013, μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄ and 좔석 μ—°νœ΄ is applied Substitute holiday.

as described in κ΄€κ³΅μ„œμ˜ κ³΅νœ΄μΌμ— κ΄€ν•œ κ·œμ • μΌλΆ€κ°œμ •λ Ήμ•ˆ:
If the holiday(or Sunday) falls on a New Year(μ„€λ‚ )'s Day or a Chuseok(좔석) holiday, the first business day following that day shall be a holiday. If the Children's Day(어린이날) falls on a Saturday or another holiday (Sunday, Buddha's birthday(석가탄신일), etc.), the first business day following that day shall be a holiday.

After this rule, correction of this year's μ„€λ‚  holiday like this:

  • 2017 27 Jan(Fri) - μ„€λ‚  μ—°νœ΄
  • 2017 28 Jan(Sat) - μ„€λ‚ 
  • 2017 29 Jan(Sun) - not holiday
  • 2017 30 Jan(Mon) - λŒ€μ²΄ 휴일

ref here: https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EB%8C%80%EC%B2%B4%ED%9C%B4%EC%9D%BC%EC%A0%9C%EB%8F%84

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