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batman47steam avatar batman47steam commented on July 29, 2024

I think the derivative is 2 * ((0.5weight) - 0.8) * 0.5, that is 2 * 0.5 * ((0.5weight) - 0.8) , so the result is 0.5*x - 0.8

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batman47steam avatar batman47steam commented on July 29, 2024

the general forum for this : 2 * ((input*weight) - goal_pred) * input.
in nerualnetwork people may dont care about the exactly coefficient of derivative, so just omit 2 and leave the key part of the derivative

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jpstrube avatar jpstrube commented on July 29, 2024

Hmm, if error = (input * weight - goal_pred) ** 2
should derivative not be 2 * (input * weight - goal_pred)?
Since in this example input = 2, it's the same but I'm also confused...

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batman47steam avatar batman47steam commented on July 29, 2024

Hmm, if error = (input * weight - goal_pred) ** 2
should derivative not be 2 * (input * weight - goal_pred)?
Since in this example input = 2, it's the same but I'm also confused...

the derivative should be 2 * weight * (input * weight-goal_pred),that's the chain rule, you also should do derivative to input * weight
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1vash avatar 1vash commented on July 29, 2024

As far as I'm concerned, weights_delta in 4th Chapter are calculated via delta rule

Just to clarify:
The Delta rule is an update rule for single layer NN. It makes use of Gradient Descent.
Backpropagation is an update rule for multi layer NN based on Gradient Descent.

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chirapok avatar chirapok commented on July 29, 2024

But if we are using direction_and_amount = (pred - goal_pred) * input * 2 (e.g., not omitting the two), the model converges much faster?

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