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Nutomic avatar Nutomic commented on June 16, 2024 10

You are not a lawyer so I wont take your unqualified opinion as fact. I also have to point you to the license under which Lemmy is provided to you for free:

THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY
APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT
HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY
OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM
IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF
ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.

So there is no legal nor moral responsibility to implement any features that you personally want. However you are free to:

  • Implement the feature yourself
  • Pay someone else to implement it
  • Stop using Lemmy and use one of countless alternative platforms instead

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dessalines avatar dessalines commented on June 16, 2024 5

This is the problem that I'm trying to resolve. Your priorities.

Would you mind if we set some of your priorities also? You're asking us to do free labor for you, that you're unwilling to do yourself. Do not put ultimatums and demands on people making FOSS, or I won't hesitate to block you from these repos.

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dessalines avatar dessalines commented on June 16, 2024 4

Very well, your first priority is to learn rust and take on this issue, I'll assign it to you. Since you're okay with other people setting your priorities, this shouldn't be a problem. We'd much appreciate your help.

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Nutomic avatar Nutomic commented on June 16, 2024 2

I dont believe that GDPR applies to Lemmy unless it is provided as a commercial service.

https://www.twipla.com/en/blog/what-does-gdpr-compliance-mean-for-personal-websites

https://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/recital-18-GDPR.htm

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maltfield avatar maltfield commented on June 16, 2024 2

EU residents' data protection laws apply to all websites, not just commercial ones.

The exemptions you've cited for "personal websites" do not apply to public Lemmy instances. Most lemmy instances are not a "personal website" (unless it's a single user's personal instance).

It's extremely alarming if the lead lemmy devs think they're immune to criminal data processing practices.

Anyway, legality aside, the Lemmy project has a moral responsibility to implement software that ensures its users' right to be forgotten and other data privacy rights. Is the Lemmy team really deflecting and de-prioritizing data protection ethics?

Please tag & prioritize issues that harm lemmy users' data privacy rights.

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maltfield avatar maltfield commented on June 16, 2024

See also this ticket to add a section to the Lemmy UI for users to be able to delete individual images without having to delete their account

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maltfield avatar maltfield commented on June 16, 2024

@Nutomic I'm ok to cleanup the title of this ticket from being too long/unwieldy, but I do think it's important to track which tickets are related to legal concerns of data privacy laws, such as GDPR.

Can we please add a tag to this issue, such as:

  1. gdpr or
  2. legal

I think it's important to add some sort of tag to issues that could cause legal troubles for instance admins, so they can more easily be filtered & identified for priority.

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dessalines avatar dessalines commented on June 16, 2024

Anyway, legality aside, the Lemmy project has a moral responsibility to implement software that ensures its users' right to be forgotten and other data privacy rights. Is the Lemmy team really deflecting and de-prioritizing data protection ethics?

Please do not engage with developers in this way. We have way more work than we can handle, and years of priorities before this. If its a priority for you, then work on it and we'll accept a PR.

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maltfield avatar maltfield commented on June 16, 2024

I appreciate the work you've done in writing lemmy, but please prioritize pending issues of criminal data processing.

We have...years of priorities before this

This is the problem that I'm trying to resolve. Your priorities.

THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM...

GPL provides legal protections to the developers writing the software; it does not protect the instances running the software.

By not prioritizing these issues, you're throwing users under the bus. By releasing a feature that allows users to upload content before implementing a means for them to delete that content, you're tieing your community of instance admins to the railroad tracks and walking away.

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maltfield avatar maltfield commented on June 16, 2024

Would you mind if we set some of your priorities also?

I do not mind, please do.

In the FOSS projects that I lead, I largely let the priorities of pending issues be dictated by the community.

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