Inconsistent Tool Pickup about jubilee HOT 11 CLOSED

Ok, here's another image from @erikmcclain 's printer.

I think it's safe to close this issue at this point. Huge win for everyone!

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I've noticed this same slight mis-alignment that happens only sometimes, and with regard to the 'wiggle', sometimes when you first touch the mounted tool it will 'pop' into place and won't wiggle after that. I did notice the finer layers on V1 instructions and did print the plates that way.

At this moment, I've switched back to stainless pins, and silver balls (i.e. original spec). I am also going to shorten my spring a bit for more torque (mine may be the slightest bit long to begin with).

I will report back when there are a few hundred or thousand tool exchanges with these updates.

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Update on this issue:

I have had a sample run of Delrin Wedge Plates injection molded by some manufacturers in China.

Prelimininary Repeatability tests look... really good.

And a test print:

I'll have a bigger batch made and get these in the hands of Jubilee component vendors. They should less than $5 US apiece.

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Have you updated the printing instructions for the lock plate insert to print at the lower layer height?

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Oof, good point. I completely dropped the ball on extruder instructions. I just started a page (draft!) for them.

https://github.com/machineagency/jubilee/wiki/Bondtech-Direct-Drive-Extruder

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@DanalEstes have a go at the new parking post design. Still need to run more than just one test, but the results look very promising. (Results at the tail end of this related issue: #43 )

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Switching to the new parking post seems to have fixed this issue since tools can no longer easily twist while being picked up.

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I was having the same issue, and I'm actually using aluminum parking post blocks so there's zero room for flex there.

I tried shortening the actuator spring incrementally, but I had to take off around 6mm (total length around 100mm) before seeing any improvement. At that point, it was extremely difficult to assemble the actuator pulleys so I didn't want to go any further with that, and the problem hadn't fully gone away.

I then tried slowing the motor down to about 50% of it's normal speed for locking (as I now see you've already updated the macro file with). I also sanded the ramp on the wedge plates to make them smoother, but printing at a smaller layer height would also work for that.

Just figured I'd share what helped solve the issue for me in case anyone else is still experiencing this problem.

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@vcapra1 Thanks for the heads-up. Would you be willing to show pics of your aluminum parking post setup? Also, do you remember if you printed the wedge plate with 0.1mm layer height?

On my end, slowing down the locking procedure, pushing into the coupling before engaging it (that's a feature that's now present in the current toolchange macros), and updating the parking post design has basically eliminated this issue on my machine, but that's not to say that there could be something design-related that is making this issue crop up. Any more info on your setup would greatly help, and thanks for chiming in!

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I printed the wedge plates with 0.2mm height, so using 0.1mm height might help too. In my experience, 0.2mm layers are stronger than 0.1mm layers (not sure if that also applies for this piece though, and that could be just a configuration issue that I haven't figured out yet too).

Here are photos of my parking post setup:

I have thin blue shims under the blocks to adjust the height, which is a disadvantage of making this out of a single block of aluminum, but I've found the sturdiness has helped a lot. I haven't tried the new printed parking post design, so that may also work just as well.

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@vcapra1 you just gave me an idea. Another approach would be some cast corners and a threaded dowel rod. Found them cheap in 6x60 here:
https://www.boneham.co.uk/Products/dowel-pins/tapped-metric-dowel-pins

The dowel would fasten to a screw through the cast bracket, and the bottom of the bracket goes into a spacer block for correct height. What do you guys think?

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