RFC: Playlist Bucket Adlibs about sofie-core HOT 5 CLOSED

Hi and thanks for opening an RFC. Due to the holidays it will take a bit longer than usual to evaluate the RFC, apologies! I expect this will be picked in the new year.

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Hi @ianshade and thanks for waiting while we have been on break and evaluating this.

Let me start by stating that we absolutely support the use case of creating adlib actions for a rundown/playlist through an HTTP API such as the one contributed in #1070, however.

Currently there is a limitation that we would like to lift: Buckets and their AdLibs are global to a Studio, which makes all Adlibs within a Bucket visible next to any Rundown Playlist in that Studio

NRK has decided against lifting this limitation right now. This limitation is a core part of the design of the buckets as their intention is a storage place across rundowns for adlibs that a user wants to reuse. Whilst lifting that limitation is fairly trivial from a code viewpoint, we do not have the infrastructure in place to support such conceptual changes long-term and as such it is extremely likely we will break it in the future. Past experiences have taught us that, while it seems like a small detail, it can easily cause rifts across team members and contributors.

Internally in NRK I will propose evaluating how we can start to accept contributions on conceptual matters, as I believe that with a growing number of contributors we will have to be able to do this at some point. So please be assured that this is something we want to be better at.

In the meanwhile, we would love to help you find an alternative way to support your use-case for this change. Some things come to mind such as implementing an (http) API to create rundown ad-libs. Or if you are using a custom ui, perhaps some metadata can be stored on the bucket ad-lib and you can filter for that instead. If you are interested we can set up a time to workshop some of these ideas and I can involve some of the experts from the NRK team on this. Just contact me at [email protected]

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@mint-dewit thank you for the answer. Could you please share some insight into what might change about the Buckets in the foreseeable future that would make the proposed addition prone to breaking or hard to maintain in subsequent releases of Sofie?

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Ah, the issue isn't so much what we are planning to do about the Buckets in the foreseeable future, I apologise if that wasn't clear from my initial explanation. What we need to take into consideration when evaluating the RFCs is more so about the entire system of Sofie and how the different features interact and are separated on a conceptual level. We understand that this stuff is poorly documented and we do apologise for that. We will look into improving this documentation.

As we really want to see you succeed, we would love to invite you for a workshop to talk about these larger designs and also about how to implement this use-case. Would Tuesday 2pm CEST work for you? Feel free to reach me on any platform to discuss a date and time.

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Thanks @mint-dewit, this won't be necessary. I'm closing this RFC as the proposed change is no longer needed.

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