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TitusLabs avatar TitusLabs commented on July 18, 2024

This should not be caused by any update. But, it's hard to say. May be you have plastic left on the nozzle or your switch is somehow damaged?

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jinnn1989 avatar jinnn1989 commented on July 18, 2024

I am also facing the same issue. Sometimes the first layer is perfect while sometime its too squished but I know for sure this issue is happening after update 1.0

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TitusLabs avatar TitusLabs commented on July 18, 2024

Strange, I've had the same problem the last few times. But for me it was the very first time. It has nothing to do with the update. I had blamed it on the fact that I had printed PLA for the first time, which was very ooze. However, the error only seemed to go away after a Klipper restart 🤔

The typical Omron switch can develop a drift over time. I have had fewer problems with this so far, but some people have reported it.

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jinnn1989 avatar jinnn1989 commented on July 18, 2024

I did try with Omron and Other switches as well but still I see the issue. Earlier my Z-offset was 0.65 for 0.4 nozzle and 0.63 for 0.8 Nozzle and that would work everytime. but not for 0.4 nozzle even 0.17 does not work.

Not sure what is causing the issue but everytime I need to look for the squeeze.

Just some results below with different z offset, first time it comes very well, then it gets squeezed.

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.007 - (switch=8.556 - nozzle=2.582 + switch_offset=0.190) --> new offset=-0.156250

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.042 - (switch=8.592 - nozzle=2.581 + switch_offset=0.190) --> new offset=-0.158750

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.030 - (switch=8.576 - nozzle=2.574 + switch_offset=0.190) --> new offset=-0.162500

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.052 - (switch=8.599 - nozzle=2.575 + switch_offset=0.190) --> new offset=-0.161250

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.246 - (switch=8.781 - nozzle=2.740 + switch_offset=0.180) --> new offset=0.024750

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.245 - (switch=8.772 - nozzle=2.743 + switch_offset=0.180) --> new offset=0.036000

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jinnn1989 avatar jinnn1989 commented on July 18, 2024

more results below, this is after I start the printer, give it a print then I see the squeeze is too much, so cancel the print and restart the same print and again issue .

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.242 - (switch=8.748 - nozzle=2.745 + switch_offset=0.180) --> new offset=0.058500

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=6.197 - (switch=8.738 - nozzle=2.747 + switch_offset=0.180) --> new offset=0.026000

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TitusLabs avatar TitusLabs commented on July 18, 2024

OK, the result is still consistent for me. There were really only a few exceptions. If you have constantly changing values, then there is something mechanically wrong with your printer. E.g. crooked/wobbling magnets, loose pulleys, wobbling print head, oozing nozzle.... just to name a few. Is your PROBE_ACCURACY consistent?

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jinnn1989 avatar jinnn1989 commented on July 18, 2024

Yes prob accuracy is was consistent, very slight variation which I expect it. but rest it was good. I need to check other mechanical parts. but for sure they are not an issues.

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jinnn1989 avatar jinnn1989 commented on July 18, 2024

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=5.332 - (switch=7.511 - nozzle=1.444 + switch_offset=0.250) --> new offset=-0.984272

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=5.334 - (switch=7.511 - nozzle=1.447 + switch_offset=0.250) --> new offset=-0.979272

Z-CALIBRATION: probe=5.333 - (switch=7.509 - nozzle=1.449 + switch_offset=0.250) --> new offset=-0.976772

these were my prob calibration reults

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TitusLabs avatar TitusLabs commented on July 18, 2024

These values look pretty good. Now tune your switch_offset to barely touch the bed with the nozzle (the real z=0 position and no paper or something). Then test it again. And maybe even restart Klipper and test it again. Be careful with meshes if you use it. Start without a mesh and recalibrate it after you have calibrated your z...

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jinnn1989 avatar jinnn1989 commented on July 18, 2024

Yes the calibration values are good, I did a slight change in my Start gcode, that was to move the z calibration before mesh, and I think i am starting to get good results. but still the values are not that stable. Tomorrow will check mechanical parts.

once more thing I observed was that on PEI smooth bed the results are very good, but on texture its not that stable.

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TitusLabs avatar TitusLabs commented on July 18, 2024

Ok, on textured PEI the consistency depends on the switch and how fine the texture is. Unfortunately, there aren't that many plates that really have a fine texture.

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buhralex avatar buhralex commented on July 18, 2024

I basically have the same problem as @jinnn1989. I dialed in the offset many times. Sometimes the print turns out really good, next print I get an elephant foot or the filament doesn't stick to the buildplate at all.

I already checked the mechanical parts and found no issues.
When I deactivate Auto Z and dial in my Offset manually I get perfect and consistent results.

I've read somewhere that this could have something to do with me using KAMP but even when I restart Klipper, clear the mesh, home the printer and then do a calibrate_z the results vary and my nozzle doesn't touch the buildplate or dives right into it.

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