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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024 1

We can close it. pvlib python's implementation follows PVLIB MATLAB's pvl_singleaxis.m, including the references section.

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cwhanse avatar cwhanse commented on June 12, 2024 1

@mikofski the code implements the algorithm in the reference paper by Lorenza. Although Marion's paper covers the same material, the notation and calculation process is different enough that I don't want to risk confusing future code maintenance by adding references which don't help explain the code.

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

Turns out that pvlib matlab has a single axis tracker function pvl_singleaxis.m. Should definitely port this. It references

Lorenzo, E et al., 2011, "Tracking and back-tracking", Prog. in Photovoltaics: Research and Applications, v. 19, pp. 747-753. wiley.com

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

Where would this function live? In it's own module, maybe called tracking.py or trackers.py?

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robwandrews avatar robwandrews commented on June 12, 2024

I think it warrants it's own module: tracking.py is my vote

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

PR #35 added a translation of pvlib matlab's pvl_singleaxis.m. Leaving this issue open for dual axis trackers.

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raphaelvarieras avatar raphaelvarieras commented on June 12, 2024

Hey all, I'm new to this repository. I did quite a bit of work on tracker algorithms when I was at Solaria/Nextracker and would be happy to be able to contribute. I created this framework in which all tracker systems are essentially just subsets of a hypothetical three-axis tracker with the three Euler angles.

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

Welcome. That sounds interesting. Do your algorithms include backtracking? Any IP/license issues?

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raphaelvarieras avatar raphaelvarieras commented on June 12, 2024

Yes, I implemented horizontal backtracking for all tracker azimuths if I remember well. I did not do it for tilted tracker, azimuth or dual axis. No IP/license issues that I know of but I will double-check.

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raphaelvarieras avatar raphaelvarieras commented on June 12, 2024

No IP/license issue confirmed. Should we have a quick call to talk about this?

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

Great. I would prefer to keep things as open on github as possible, though if necessary we can arrange a call if you email me at [email protected]

Some questions to get started:

  • Have you looked at the existing single axis tracker algorithm in tracking.py?
  • Do you propose to replace that function entirely or add a new one?
  • Have you tested the algorithms against each other?
  • Would this be best implemented as a collection of functions or as a collection of classes with inheritance?

I think it would be nice to have some good documentation with diagrams/sketches to go along with this.

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raphaelvarieras avatar raphaelvarieras commented on June 12, 2024

No worries - I just didn't want to burden the repository conversation with matters of branching protocol and things like that...

To your questions:

  • Yes, seems pretty straightforward
  • I think it would be a good idea to create a new one and being able to compare
  • I ran a lot of test back in the days but haven't compared with the current one
  • If I remember correctly, I had created a vector class to perform convenient vector normalizations, cross products, and other things needed in the algorithm, and then another class with the actual tracking nuts and bolts.

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

Ok, I would suggest throwing together the basics and submitting a pull request before you get too far. Have you seen the Contributing wiki?

https://github.com/pvlib/pvlib-python/wiki/Contributing-to-pvlib-python

Let us know if something isn't clear there so that we can improve it (or edit it yourself).

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jforbess avatar jforbess commented on June 12, 2024

@raphaelvarieras, I don't suppose you have any time to put together a function with your implementation, or maybe send it to me for implementation? I am looking at the single axis tracker clear sky poa curve, and it doesn't look right, possibly due to an incorrect surface_aziumth calculation. I am planning to go through the current code and its reference, but it's always good to see a different implementation.

@wholmgren, this is another example that should be compared to the MATLAB version, and I will work to get that test in place, though I might need someone with MATLAB to run the base case for me. Or I can be the guinea pig to see if it runs in octave. I forget if anyone else has tested it to see.

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wholmgren avatar wholmgren commented on June 12, 2024

@jforbess what version of pvlib are you using? @mayudong fixed an issue with surface azimuth in #145 and claimed that the results were consistent with pvsyst. This fix was included in 0.3.1. I also reproduced the matlab examples in the tracking notebook, though the comparison was only by visual inspection.

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jforbess avatar jforbess commented on June 12, 2024

Hm. I'm using v0.3.3. I will go run the note book example too, thanks.

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jforbess avatar jforbess commented on June 12, 2024

The notebook was helpful. Ultimately my issue was due to using the default 'isotropic' instead of 'haydavies' for a diffuse model. Apparently the boost on the shoulders of the day are attributed to some additional poa_diffuse.

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jforbess avatar jforbess commented on June 12, 2024

Has anyone worked on a 2-axis tracker algorithm? It doesn't look like there is one in PVLIB for Matlab either.

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cwhanse avatar cwhanse commented on June 12, 2024

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jforbess avatar jforbess commented on June 12, 2024

I guess that works, with fairly basic checks for limits of the tracker's mechanical constraints (+/- 120 deg, or whatever).

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deltaorange avatar deltaorange commented on June 12, 2024

Hey everyone, I have found that the tracking alg for a single axis tracker is reversed . That is, in a given days hours of operation, when compared with pvsyst/sam, is reversed in order. (first time step has sam/pvsyst's last step). Can anyone else confirm?

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mikofski avatar mikofski commented on June 12, 2024

Is there any reason for this issue to remain open still? Can it be closed now? AFAIK single single axie tracking is in https://github.com/pvlib/pvlib-python/blob/master/pvlib/tracking.py. Also IMO the NREL tracking paper by bill Marion should probably be referenced in singleaxis

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