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randyrants
commented on May 18, 2024
I know the upgrade would have reset all the key remapping entries - I noticed that across all three releases of Windows 10. Odd that they had to be flipped. Do you know if they were entered in the same order the first time around? I know that if you are doing a chain across the same keys it could end up weird depending on the order the keys are entered...
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jrwhite59
commented on May 18, 2024
Hi Randy,
Yes, I believe I entered them the same way as I did the first time. I only started using your utility a few weeks ago, as an emergency replacement laptop ended up having a Canadian bilingual keyboard with odd key positions. I didn’t see any documentation specifically, so I was careful not to use a key that had a destination remap as a source for another key.
This is what I did and in this order:
FROM [left shift] TO [non-standard backslash between [Z] and [left shift]
FROM [backslash] TO [num pad forward slash]
FROM [standard enter] to [backslash]
This worked fine originally, and then as I reported, this time everything was backwards. The non standard backslash key remained a backslash and the left shift behaved as a backslash, etc.
When I mapped again using the same order as above, but reversing the TO and FROM keys, everything is working as expected.
In between each remap session I deleted the maps, wrote to the registry, and rebooted before making another remap attempt.
Hope this helps, and thanks again for this great utility.
Jonathan
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Subject: Re: [randyrants/sharpkeys] key maps reversed with Win10 Creators Edition (#8)
I know the upgrade would have reset all the key remapping entries - I noticed that across all three releases of Windows 10. Odd that they had to be flipped. Do you know if they were entered in the same order the first time around? I know that if you are doing a chain across the same keys it could end up weird depending on the order the keys are entered...
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supersonicsixteen
commented on May 18, 2024
Oh heavens! This worked for me too! This is really strange. :/
I'll take it though! Thanks for figuring this out.
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statoj
commented on May 18, 2024
Me too! I had the same problems and after reading the above, I transposed the "To" with the "From" and remapped the Right Shift to the Page Up key and now it works!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I am a professional transcriptionist and this weird keyboard configuation of the Lenovo laptop was driving me completely buggy.
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statoj
commented on May 18, 2024
p.s. JR WHITE 59 you are brilliant!
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jrwhite59
commented on May 18, 2024
Thanks, statoj. I've been running the development arm of a software company for 35 years now and still do a bunch of SQA, so I always look for patterns. Not brilliant, just experienced.
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jrwhite59
commented on May 18, 2024
I'd venture that Randy's code was resilient to the changes that MS made.
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statoj
commented on May 18, 2024
Resilient or resistant?
That to/from switch was so odd.
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I'd venture that Randy's code was resilient to the changes that MS made.
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apraetor
commented on May 18, 2024
So Creator's Update plays nice with SharpKeys now?
When it first deployed to my PC (deferred upgrades) a month ago it totally killed SharpKeys. The settings were wiped out as expected, but once I wrote new ones to the registry and rebooted my keyboard stopped working entirely; had to use the on-screen kb to log in and reinstall the HID keyboard driver; then everything was fine until I re-applied the SharpKeys registry changes. Same HID keyboard driver problem. Even plugging in a different USB keyboard didn't help.
So I reverted the upgrade and all is well. Maybe it was just bad luck.
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statoj
commented on May 18, 2024
Well, that's a a cautionary tale.
I just used SharpKeys on both of my Windows 10 laptops yesterday (with the
reversal of "to" and "from" ) and both are working great.
I will bear what you said in mind the next time Windows 10 sends future
updgrades.
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So Creator's Update plays nice with SharpKeys now?
When it first deployed to my PC (deferred upgrades) a month ago it totally
killed SharpKeys. The settings were wiped out as expected, but once I wrote
new ones to the registry and rebooted my keyboard stopped working entirely;
had to use the on-screen kb to log in and reinstall the HID keyboard
driver; then everything was fine until I re-applied the SharpKeys registry
changes. Same HID keyboard driver problem. Even plugging in a different USB
keyboard didn't help.
So I reverted the upgrade and all is well. Maybe it was just bad luck.
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randyrants
commented on May 18, 2024
This is odd. I've been running Creator Editor from the very first release (long before it hit the public) and I haven't see this behavior at all. I've still got Caps Lock to Disabled and it's correctly turned off.
It feels odd that from Windows NT 4.0 through Windows 10 Anniversary Editor that it worked fine but Creator is somehow mixing things up and at the UX level. The registry appears to be the same across the board.
Maybe there needs to be a 3.6 release that's particular to 10CE or a fork in the UX code or maybe the Registry did change in the latest update so it needs to write out a different Scancode map for 10.0.15063 or higher?
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