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ronaldtse avatar ronaldtse commented on September 5, 2024 1

@paolobrasolin I agree with this approach since the “by” keyword could also refer to other bibtex keys too. And in any case, the gem should support bibliography databases beyond just bibtex in the future!

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paolobrasolin avatar paolobrasolin commented on September 5, 2024

Writing the ISO CSL style and using a switch to prefill the citation-label using shorthand is the best way to go.

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ronaldtse avatar ronaldtse commented on September 5, 2024

Agree. There does not seem to be an agreed practice on how to BibTeX cite ISO documents yet. Perhaps you can formalize a method based on ISO 690?

http://dominiodelasciencias.com/ojs/documentos/ISO690-2010.pdf

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ronaldtse avatar ronaldtse commented on September 5, 2024

@paolobrasolin is this issue still valid? Thanks

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paolobrasolin avatar paolobrasolin commented on September 5, 2024

It is. I gave this some thought.

I think the best way to handle this kind of situation, since there is no fixed convention for BibTeX data structure, would be to introduce an option like

cite[iso:31000, by=shorthand]

that would produce an (hyperlinked if necessary) citation text [ISO 21000:2009].
That is, we let the user specify an arbitrary (text) field to use as a citation body.
This has the bonus of solving some other weird edge cases too without introducing extra specialization.

Allowing more flexibility would probably be more fruitful than trying to enforce a convention, despite some extra verbosity (e.g. compare with a more rigid citeiso[iso:31000]).

Also, this is perfectly in line with the idea in #59.

My only doubts about the usability of this are about multiple citations and wrapping brackets.
What are your thought on this?

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ribose-jeffreylau avatar ribose-jeffreylau commented on September 5, 2024

Hi, is this idea still being considered? Asking cuz this would be something we would start using right away.

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