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ajstrongdev avatar ajstrongdev commented on September 25, 2024 1

Pacstall is in constant development and it is miles ahead of other debian solutions for the AUR. The Pacstall developers are working on Pacstall v2.0 and it is improving their system massively.

Flatpaks utilise shared libraries and so while the initial installation of a few Flatpaks are large, they become smaller over time since they share libraries across them. As for them being slow, they run at near-native speeds and offer some of the best solutions to application packaging and security.

Rolling Rhino Remix is in neither Alpha nor Beta. AppImages have ran perfectly fine on my system and so the likely culprit is a dodgy AppImage. I tested an AppImage and it functioned as intended. We are creating this distribution for free and on a volunteer basis, the best way to improve it is to contribute. We do not have a lot of free time and any time we do get is spent improving upon and working on the distribution.

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ajstrongdev avatar ajstrongdev commented on September 25, 2024

Hello, I will need a bit more information. What happens if you try to run the AppImage inside of the terminal?

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DutchPete avatar DutchPete commented on September 25, 2024

RRR was experimental for me. I did not like the fact that any software I installed was done with a Snap. There was also that incessant message coming up about something missing/not right in Ubuntu 22.04.

And finally, I was disappointed to get no answer to the AppImage issue after 5 days. So, I moved on to another distro where things work, there is a very helpful, responsive community, and the range of software on offer is impressive.

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ajstrongdev avatar ajstrongdev commented on September 25, 2024

RRR was experimental for me. I did not like the fact that any software I installed was done with a Snap. There was also that incessant message coming up about something missing/not right in Ubuntu 22.04.

Ad finally, I was disappointed to get no answer to the AppImage issue after 5 days. So, I moved on to another distro where things work, there is a very helpful, responsive community, and the range of software on offer is impressive.

I am glad you found a distro you like, and I am sorry that Rolling Rhino Remix did not satisfy you. You can also install Flatpak for more additional software or make use of Pacstall and the official repositories.

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DutchPete avatar DutchPete commented on September 25, 2024

When I learned about Pacstall, I was very excited about it. When I looked at what is in there, I was very disappointed indeed, it is miles behind AUR.

As for Flatpaks, big and slow. No thanks.

I am sorry I cannot be more positive, but TBH I was disappointed by what I found. I know the distro is still in beta, but to me a beta version should still be more polished than what RRR is at the mo; to me RRR is alpha+.

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Elsie19 avatar Elsie19 commented on September 25, 2024

When I learned about Pacstall, I was very excited about it. When I looked at what is in there, I was very disappointed indeed, it is miles behind AUR.

As for Flatpaks, big and slow. No thanks.

I am sorry I cannot be more positive, but TBH I was disappointed by what I found. I know the distro is still in beta, but to me a beta version should still be more polished than what RRR is at the mo; to me RRR is alpha+.

What part of Pacstall made you disappointed?

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DutchPete avatar DutchPete commented on September 25, 2024

@chadano : β€œmiles ahead of other debian solutions for the AUR”
I don't understand that statement: AUR is not for Debian solutions.

Flatpaks may be better than Snaps and many people like them; I have read that they are big and slow. I do not have experience with Flatpaks but at this stage I won't try.

I learned about RRR a couple of weeks ago in a write up on DistroWatch, and in there it is referred to as still in beta.

No, the AppImage I referred to was not dodgy, it worked fine in other distros I tried. It was KeepassXC BTW.

I understand the distro is free and done by volunteers with limited spare time, I have no issues with that per se, I have not criticized that. But I do want to have a distro I feel comfortable with and which offers me what I am looking for. An important part of that is an active forum. I say active because there are distros that have a forum but where activity is low, so like here, one has to wait for days to get a response, if at all.

I had no preconceived ideas about RRR so I gave it a shot; I was not satisfied.

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DutchPete avatar DutchPete commented on September 25, 2024

@Henryws: what disappointed me about Pacstall was the paucity of apps, as I stated in an earlier comment above. iirc, I managed to find only 1 of the apps I use regularly (cannot remeber which one), and those I did not find are not highly unusual, niche apps.

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Elsie19 avatar Elsie19 commented on September 25, 2024

Considering the AUR began in 2004, and pacstall began in 2020, obviously there will be a difference in packages.

And even so, you could have just made a pacscript for your apps (they're incredibly easy to make). I'm doing this is my free time, and pacstall is worth every penny you pay for it 😁

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DutchPete avatar DutchPete commented on September 25, 2024

@Henryws: sure, it is understandable, but the big discrepancy is there, it is a fact.
And like I pointed out, there are other reasons why I was not satisfied with RRR.

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ajstrongdev avatar ajstrongdev commented on September 25, 2024

Rolling Rhino Remix does have an active chat where I am much more active. It's hosted on Matrix or Discord and you will be able to talk to me there as I am active pretty much 24/7 excluding sleep. Rather than waiting days you may have to wait 4-8 hours at the most.

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