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stonith404 avatar stonith404 commented on September 23, 2024 1

I can't really do much as I can't reproduce this. Normally, it should throw an error if something went wrong while sending the mail. But the strange part is that sending the mail only doesn't work for shares and reverse shares.

If you find out more, let me know.

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stonith404 avatar stonith404 commented on September 23, 2024

That's strange, I've just tested these both cases and it works for me on the latest version. Are the mails maybe in the spam?

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marvinruder avatar marvinruder commented on September 23, 2024

Just tested again with email addresses from multiple providers – no share-related emails are delivered, not even in the Spam folders. The test email still works. Very strange indeed.

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Zixim avatar Zixim commented on September 23, 2024

same here re the missing emails.

For me, after using a reverse share, the frontend doesn't indicate that there's a new file.
Yet, checking the uploads folder and I can see the newly created share present.

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Zixim avatar Zixim commented on September 23, 2024

ugh... turns out I wasn't actually using a reverse share to upload a file, I got the URLs mixed up and was actually sharing as a logged-in user.
I did notice that the username in the SMTP config section got mangled by an extra "@" symbol. The username wrongly became : my_username@@my_domain.meh
No clue where the extra "@" came from.

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marvinruder avatar marvinruder commented on September 23, 2024

I finally managed to set up all mails so that they can be sent from iCloud SMTP server. The Pingvin server itself behaves fine, I confirmed that by acting as a rudimentary SMTP server myself using netcat and talking to Pingvin from there. It appears that iCloud uses some sort of spam filter that gets particular nervous when emails

  • contain lots of words like β€œfile”, β€œshare”, link,
  • contain URLs (long URLs with paths and identifiers appear to be more suspicious than just FQDNs),
  • are sent to the email they are being sent from.

Maybe my server provider’s (Hetzner) IP address range is also not well trusted, but I did not try using a proxy.

It is quite annoying that they apply checks like that even after successfully authenticating via STARTTLS, and silently discarding emails right away instead of quarantining them. For people wanting to use iCloud SMTP as well I recommend to change

  • the subject β€œNew files shared with you” to β€œNew Pingvin Share available”,
  • the Reverse share message body so that it no longer includes the full share URL but only the instance’s FQDN without a path,
  • the sending email address to one different from any user account’s.

This is what is working for me at the moment. I will close the issue as Pingvin is not the misbehaving entity in this setup.

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marvinruder avatar marvinruder commented on September 23, 2024

Also, is there some bulk delete functionality to delete the dozens of test uploads I created while analyzing? Some β€œSelect all…” menu might be a useful addition.

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