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@iCrawl, I'm very disappointed, you've been incredibly childish and immature, consider updating your library (improving it) instead of bullying someone else's, but I appreciate the recognition/acknowledgement you had with us--I'm glad we're popular--, just don't snoop around on smaller libraries only to spread hatred.

I have so far no intention of sending out any DMCAs or whatever simply because it looks like this library is still in heavy development and growing, but maybe consider looking over certain code passages again.

Ridiculous!

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This escalated pretty quickly, pretty strong accusations, you seem to know our code better than I do. It hurts me a lot that you say that when our idea is precisely not to make the mistakes that discord.js made during its growing development, anyway, it's true in software the word deprecated is something that is not used anymore, but is it really that important? As I said before why should it be subject to the interpretation of the phrase, especially when it can be confirmed with 2 clicks? I'm going to take that as you just missed the point, all I wanted was your perspective on this rather than just "deprecated is a bad word", why the fuck, so let's burn the whole javascript ecosystem because every day people write posts about a technology being deprecated just because there is a new one.

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Hi, we really consider discord.js as something archaic, and after all sapphire uses it underneath, the word deprecated is not only to refer to something that is no longer updated and maintained, the slogan reflects what we think the members of this project (with a bit of sarcasm), it seems more like a censorship than a change, you are free to give a more concrete opinion.

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no way someone just did this issue

EDIT: btw self-promoting your library on another library which is not yours is crazy

EDIT 2: "robust"

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You need to get a hold of yourself. Whether you want to take whatever was proposed or not is up to you, the fact that the current statement is factually wrong stands.

Nice try on the dunk despite no one even being remotely hostile here, that one really needed out, huh?

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the fact that you have to be very shameless to promote your library in the same competition stands, that makes me mad for any reason, oi?

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The fact that you have to lie about other libraries to promote yours stands, "oi"?

I have no intention of talking to you any further, socram03's reason seems more sane and properly worded/less childish.

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It's really your problem if you take a text that says "discord.js is deprecated" in that way, there are simply ways to look at it and Socram has already explained what his goal is

And if you can't accept comments about your library, don't have one.

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In my perspective, any user encountering this message within an external guide, distinct from the Discord.js ecosystem, and failing to discern any indication of deprecation, will incline to accord greater credibility to the official documentation provided by Discord.js over the external guide.

I understand the dismay or misinterpretation, but the message serves more as a sort of slogan rather than as a deliberate act of misinformation.

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Okay I'm going to be real with you: I don't care much either way, really.

The "proposed" text is whatever, but "deprecated" in the software space means something very specific, I don't know what type of dictionary you have to flip through to, on purpose, misleadingly, point out it has other meanings in this space.

Secondly, I really don't care about advertisement. It doesn't matter. discord.js is big enough (hell its by far the most used library by any metric), and after all competition is good.

What I don't like is misleading statements, childish dunks, gaslighting reasons, and acting as if we don't see where certain code is coming from, almost 1:1 without any mention of any licensing. I have so far no intention of sending out any DMCAs or whatever simply because it looks like this library is still in heavy development and growing, but maybe consider looking over certain code passages again.

Do what you want with this information.

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friendly fire

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Its pretty evident where a lot of ideas come from, the Collection and LimitedCollection (even down to the wording), the good old v13 proxy router, the whole way of how you handle the CDN (I don't even want to talk about that).

Yours:

Ours:

I can go on, but already, we reached the point where: "pretty strong accusations, you seem to know our code better than I do" is something that shouldn't be said lightly if one can find something like this easily.

It's true in software the word deprecated is something that is not used anymore, but is it really that important?

I don't know. But probably? Why say something isn't used anymore, when it clearly is. What is the point? Why is it so important to say otherwise?

Also lets not kid anyone, no one writes posts about React being deprecated just because Preact or Solid came out. Neither does did it happen when Svelte or Vue came out.

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I can't object about the CDN, that file just stayed there, when we implemented our own rest you can see it here where we pretend that at the time we used a fork of the rest of discordjs and we really had no intention of having a problem, I apologize, even if it was unintentional, it is a mistake.

The slogan was never intended to mislead anyone, I already mentioned it, it's just the perspective of our members, a sarcastic joke, no more, I didn't really care about changing it or not, I just wanted an answer and in fact yes, it really is quite common for people to do that, maybe just with other words, the joke didn't come out of nowhere.

This would not have escalated so much if they simply gave me an answer.

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