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I think having proper examples for these will help a lot already. Lead by example so to say.
Now unfortunately I'm no good at Github so I'm not able to add examples myself, but if you want I could write some examples and post 'm here in the comments so somebody else can add them to the extension.
Just let me know what types of examples you'd like to have, preferably with an idea of the types of properties you'd like to see used.
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Thanks @jvandriel. Having examples will help an I welcome your help here. can you provide some examples about those Place/LocalBusiness -related types: Dentist Hospital Optician Pharmacy Physician Clinician?
This would help to understand the initial intended use and improve it if needed.
To provide them in git hub, just paste them as a comment, ideally in triple quotes to preserve the format. Reading this maybe can help https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown/
alternativelly you can share them on mailing list (what I prefer): [email protected]
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Just to make sure, are you suggesting we move those Place/LocalBusiness subtypes under schema.org/MedicalOrganization
?
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The question was to consider if we move those ambiguous terms from the schema core to the health extension.
Dentist
can be the person, but also the place where the dental care is given.
Second question there was to see if it's needed to refine or replace some of those terms like:
Dentist
to be superseded by Dentistry
Q:Dentistry
can be the branch of medecine, but also the profession.
So we change an ambiguous term to another ambiguous one.
My initial thoughts was to leave that as it is now, and investigate how to disambiguate in future.
Maybe we will chose one clear definition like A technical practitioner who ...
and leave the place
component.
It becomes even complicated with:
Optician
to be superseded by ????
Here we will need however to disambiguate with:
Optometrist
Optometrists are healthcare professionals who provide primary vision care ranging from sight testing and correction to the diagnosis, treatment, and management of vision changes. An optometrist is licensed to practice optometry, which primarily involves performing eye exams and vision tests, prescribing and dispensing corrective lenses, detecting certain eye abnormalities, and prescribing medications for certain eye diseases.
Optician
Opticians are technicians trained to design, verify and fit eyeglass lenses and frames, contact lenses, and other devices to correct eyesight. They use prescriptions supplied by ophthalmologists or optometrists, but do not test vision or write prescriptions for visual correction. Opticians are not permitted to diagnose or treat eye diseases.
Source:http://www.aapos.org/terms/conditions/132
Currently:
Most of the listed are already under MedicalOrganization
.
And we have already the :MedicalOrganization :subClassOf :LocalBusiness
.
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I like the idea of moving over the mentioned schema.org/LocalBusiness
subtypes into the med extension and have them be subtypes of schema.org/MedicalOrganization
.
That would make it possible to specify medicalSpecialty > Medicalspecialty > relevantSpecialty > enumeration
to those.
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Related discussion over at the core: schemaorg/schemaorg#806
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"Q:Dentistry can be the branch of medecine, but also the profession."
schema.org/Person
currently doesn't have any property for specifying a person's profession as an entity. The only property it has is jobTitle
with an expected value of text, eg:
<span itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person">
<span itemprop="honorificPrefix">Dr</span> <span itemprop="name">Ricardo L Rodriguez</span> <span itemprop="honorificSuffix">MD</span>
<span itemprop="jobTitle">Board Certified Plastic Surgeon</span>
</span>
So expressing a person's profession IMHO isn't something we need to worry about for the medical extension yet, and possible it's a discussion that should be held over at the core first as there have been folks interested in being able to express professions with schema.org.
But if we don't have to take any 'profession' into account for now then we're just left with a subtype of schema.org/LocalBusiness
and schema.org/MedicalSpecialty
enumerations, which seems quite workable to me.
"Here we will need however to disambiguate with"
According to wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optometry) Optometry is a profession, which isn't part of schema.org yet, so we could skip it...
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Decision: see http://www.w3.org/2015/11/06-schemed-minutes.html and schemaorg/schemaorg#492
Summary:
1)Not move all of them but only medical related
2)Improvement in extension:
Organization
> MedicalOrganization
and
Organization
> LocalBusiness
> MedicalBusiness (new class in health extension)
> Dentist
> DiagnosticLab
> Hospital
> MedicalClinic
> Optician
> Pharmacy
> Physician
> VeterinaryCare
Person
> profession (new predicate in core)
> Profession (new class in core)
> MedicalSpecialty
> Cardiovascular
> Dentistry
> etc
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Related Issues (20)
- Terms/words choice: re-work on too broad or vague terms HOT 1
- Terms/words choice or re-use in health extension: enhancement needed HOT 1
- Need to disambiguate the Model: |MedicalProcedure |MedicalTherapy |TherapeuticProcedure HOT 7
- Extending the :MedicalProcedure definition HOT 1
- Improving :Drug concept definition HOT 1
- Improvement : DrugClass concept HOT 1
- Improvement : PhysicalExam concept HOT 1
- Improving :Patient concept hierarchy HOT 1
- Improvement :MedicalEnumeration concept HOT 1
- Improvement :VitalSign concept HOT 1
- Improvement :PsychologicalTreatment concept HOT 1
- Extending de definition of :cause HOT 1
- Extending the :diagnosis definition HOT 1
- Expand the domain of adverseOutcome and seriousAdverseOutcome to MedicalProcedure HOT 1
- Expand the domain of medicalSpecialty to MedicalOrganization HOT 13
- Expand the definition of medicalSpecialty HOT 5
- Improving terms under MedicalSpeciality HOT 2
- Renaming properties that have generic names HOT 3
- Types (concepts) that should remain in core vocabulary HOT 4
- Health-lifesci.schema.org Extension master plan and backlog
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