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r12a avatar r12a commented on July 18, 2024 1

Thanks @ntounsi. I made changes for most of the points you raised.

I didn't mention the isolated forms, because i think that requires even more difficult setup these days, given fallback font capabilities, widespread Arabic system fonts, etc. I know you do that, but do you know whether many others do? I did, however, rewrite the relevant paragraph to read:

It is not a particularly good idea for authors to edit in LTR mode after applying a directional override to the whole of the source code. For this, an editor that knows nothing about the Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm would be necessary, because it avoids the reordering of the text. This makes it easier to understand the mixture of markup and content, but the author has to read all the RTL content backwards. In a cursive script such as Arabic this is particularly problematic, because the normal joining shapes are altered as well as the direction.

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r12a avatar r12a commented on July 18, 2024

Now reads:

This helps to ensure that both the paragraph content and its punctuation are correctly ordered.

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xfq avatar xfq commented on July 18, 2024

Ah, right. "Punctuation" is uncountable according to https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/punctuation

We should probably fix the section title in alreq.

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ntounsi avatar ntounsi commented on July 18, 2024

Few more comments

§ Editing markup section

  1. After first markup example: "Furthermore, sentence-final punctuation, such as the period here". period or exclamation mark here?

  2. Paragraph before next example : "...things can get much worse if the overall context for the source code is right-to-left." Indeed! But I would add as a remark (after the example) that this not very usual since markup languages are generally in English, so the context in editing a source code is unlikely to be right-to-left.

  3. The paragraph before this figure-1: The first sentence "It is not unknown for authors to edit in LTR mode after applying a directional override to the whole of the source code." Is not clear to me. Do you mean apply markup to the whole code and edit in Wysiwyg mode, or edit in HTML source mode with Bidi disabled ?
    Last sentence: "because the normal joining forms are altered as well as the direction." Normal joining forms take place but backward, altering the readability.

  4. Just bellow that, in figure 1, I would add a third line example where normal joining forms are not rendered (obtained here by LRO and ZWNJs where fit):

‭ي‌ح‌ق ل‌ك‌ل فرد أ‌ن ي‌غادر‬

  1. Figure caption: should be RTL top and LTR bottom ?

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