helpful-command should have offer a "default" option of function under point about helpful HOT 4 CLOSED

@naclander for me it already works that way, with either ivy-mode or helm-mode enabled it is more obvious, without the only difference to find-function is, that there is no (default 'function-name'). Just try to press enter

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@Dickby this is the case in some situations but not all, so I think it is a bug. FWIW I am also using helm-mode for this.

I can get helpful-function to correctly default, for exaple, when my point is on top of list-colors-disaply in (list-colors-disaply). However, when my point is above setq in (setq test 'test) setq is not suggested as the default. Can you confirm whether or not this is the case for you?

In all above cases, describe-function correctly suggests the function under point.

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setq is a macro, not a function. You can use helpful-callable if you want to search for both functions and macros, or helpful-symbol for any bound symbol.

helpful-command, helpful-function and helpful-macro are more specific, and won't offer the symbol at point if it isn't the right type.

The docs could definitely be clearer on this.

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@Wilfred thanks for the response. It makes sense why you implemented it this way.

However, I assumed that the helpful-* functions were analogous to their emacs equivalent, and would therefore act the same way. i.e. helpful-function maps to describe-function.

In this case, describe-function works on both macros and functions. I think from a usability perspective this is nicer for users as well, because if I'm calling describe-function/helpful-function on something, I probably have no idea what that thing is, let alone whether it's a macro or a function.

At a minimum, maybe the docs should say to use helpful-callable to replace describe-function, and helpful-variable to replace describe-variable.

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