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benvvalk avatar benvvalk commented on June 14, 2024 1

@Hazelhuangup @melop @ValentinaPeona @warrenlr:

The latest ARCS release (https://github.com/bcgsc/arcs/releases/tag/v1.0.1) contains a first implementation of gap size estimation. To enable it, add the --dist_est option. LINKS will use the gap sizes estimated by ARCS (via makeTSVfile.py).

Currently, the error of the estimated distances is on the order of kilobases, so there is lots of room for improvement.

Only gaps flanked by contigs with lengths > 2 * --end_length will get distance estimates (other gaps will get the default size of 10bp). Depending on the contiguity of the input assembly, it may be desirable to decrease --end_length from the default value of 30,000 bp.

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warrenlr avatar warrenlr commented on June 14, 2024

10bp was chosen arbitrarily, and set within the ARCS code. When used in conjunction with the LINKS scaffolder, LINKS only uses the information passed on by ARCS (including the gap size set at 10bp)
At this point, we are not estimating the gap/overlap length in ARCS - this feature will come later

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Hazelhuangup avatar Hazelhuangup commented on June 14, 2024

Thanks for your response.

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melop avatar melop commented on June 14, 2024

Hello, is there any updates on adding gap size estimation? This functionality would be very useful.

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warrenlr avatar warrenlr commented on June 14, 2024

Yes, indeed, it would be very useful !

We are working on it, but I am afraid I don't have an ETA for you

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melop avatar melop commented on June 14, 2024

So what I notice is that after scaffolding with ARCS and linkage map assignment, some of the chromosomal regions appear to be contracted (you can see on Loupe viewer that the shared reads drop below the neighboring regions). I think that would provide a signal for correcting for the gap size.
Hopefully you guys can work out a solution soon.

Best,
Ray

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warrenlr avatar warrenlr commented on June 14, 2024

yes, the contraction is expected since the gap size is arbitrarily set at 10bp (which was chosen for practical reason, not at all based on estimates). this is valuable insights Ray, thank you for sharing. cheers, rene

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ValentinaPeona avatar ValentinaPeona commented on June 14, 2024

Hi,
is there a way to set manually the length of the inserted gaps with ARCS? Can I just put the gap length I'd like in the last column of the tsv file?
I think it would be a useful option to include (thinking about hybrid assemblies and error correction with long reads).

Thank you,
Valentina

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warrenlr avatar warrenlr commented on June 14, 2024

thank you for your comment, Valentina.
Yes, you may put any gap length you'd like in the tsv file.
We are working on gap length estimates and, when ready, the ARCS release will no longer be listing arbitrary gap lengths in the tsv file.
Cheers,
Rene

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melop avatar melop commented on June 14, 2024

Dear Rene,

after playing with it for a while, I figured out a way to get a rough estimate of gap size. Not sure if you guys are along the same lines but I guess it would be good to share it.

Basically I first used the long scaffolds as a reference, and calculate the proportion of shared barcodes between two windows (of the size 6kb, sort of arbitrary) of known distance in bp. Then I correlated log10(barcode) with distance, and saw a linear correlation.

I then wrote an Rscript to predict the gap size based on shared barcodes between two windows.

Ray
Rplots.pdf

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warrenlr avatar warrenlr commented on June 14, 2024

Thank you for your message, Ray and for sharing your insights on gap size estimates. We appreciate the interest and participation from our users and the community.
We have implemented a very similar approach, which it turns out, is also similar to how supernova generates its estimates. Recently, we have done a release for a [read] alignment-free version of the code. It's currently under review, so can't say too much at the moment.
Best regards,
Rene

(I don't understand the Rplots.pdf.. is the solid line the ground truth and dots estimates? if so, your predictor seems very robust)

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