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mattcieslak avatar mattcieslak commented on September 16, 2024

Would it make sense to also include fieldmaps from pepolar b=0 acquisitions? We could get many of these from HCP or ABCD.

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oesteban avatar oesteban commented on September 16, 2024

Update: this seems still pertinent, and we could ensure smoothness by averaging B-Spline coefficients (which is a lot less data, and do not need interpolation when mapping on to the target space because they are kept on the same grid). If we generate this template (edited the title of the issue for appropriateness), then we will be able to remove one transformation hop (and hence a potential point of failure) here

transform_list = pe.Node(
niu.Merge(3), name="transform_list", mem_gb=DEFAULT_MEMORY_MIN_GB
)
transform_list.inputs.in3 = pkgrf(
"sdcflows", "data/fmap_atlas_2_MNI152NLin2009cAsym_affine.mat"
)
.

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Would it make sense to also include fieldmaps from pepolar b=0 acquisitions? We could get many of these from HCP or ABCD.

That would be convenient for dMRIPrep in general, the same way we generated a "boldref" template for fMRIPrep a while ago. I'll open an issue there.

In the context of this PR, the idea is to create an average of fieldmaps (i.e., to get a sense of where most of the distortion is happening).

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mattcieslak avatar mattcieslak commented on September 16, 2024

Is there also a source of GRE fieldmaps? We're finding that the pepolar fieldmaps don't match very well with GRE fieldmaps even with the same shim settings

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oesteban avatar oesteban commented on September 16, 2024

We're finding that the pepolar fieldmaps don't match very well with GRE fieldmaps even with the same shim settings

This is not surprising - the smoothing/despiking of GRE fieldmaps make them "underfit", however PEPOLAR fieldmaps tend to overfit, actually.

With the work towards 1.4.0, we'll be able to regularize both GRE and PEPOLAR fieldmaps with B-Splines and bring them closer to one another.

That said, I think for this average we can pool in both types of fieldmap.

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oesteban avatar oesteban commented on September 16, 2024

This doesn't seem like a current need - please correct me if I'm wrong, @effigies (and reopen)

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