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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024 2

OK thanks for the review here @Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman!

@cMadan - this is now accepted into JOSS, your DOI is: http://dx.doi.org/10.21105/joss.00031

🎉 🚀 💥

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Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman avatar Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman commented on August 20, 2024 1

I am reviewing this

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024 1

For the paper PDF, references after the first one aren't displayed quite right. Would using a semicolon between them (rather than a comma) be the fix?

@cMadan - yep, I've fixed this in cMadan/prism#1 and updated the PDF in the review issue.

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labarba avatar labarba commented on August 20, 2024 1

This opens a bigger question for me—as JOSS editor—, which is: Should we be publishing packages that rely on proprietary programming and execution environments?

A quick look at the README for this submission immediately struck me with: "requires three first-party toolboxes: (1) Curve Fitting Toolbox; (2) Statistics and Machine Learning Toolbox; (3) Signal Processing Toolbox"
Are these paid MATLAB Toolboxes?

Should we have a conversation about that on another Issue or in the Google Group?

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024 1

This opens a bigger question for me—as JOSS editor—, which is: Should we be publishing packages that rely on proprietary programming and execution environments?

Yes I think these should be acceptable with the caveat that it should to be possible for a reviewer to address the following review points:

[ ] Installation: Does installation proceed as outlined in the documentation?
[ ] Functionality: Have the functional claims of the software been confirmed?
[ ] Performance: Have any performance claims of the software been confirmed?

Should we have a conversation about that on another Issue or in the Google Group?

Let's have this conversation in an issue. Are you happy to start it?

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024 1

@cMadan - changing the Markdown to:

...quadratic regression are often used (e.g., @SoweEtal2003; @HogsEtal2013; @MadaKens2016), it has been shown that...

results in this output:

screen shot 2016-06-27 at 10 00 11 pm

Does that look better? I'm not a pandoc expert I'm afraid.

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024

/ cc @openjournals/joss-reviewers - would anyone be willing to review this submission?

If you would like to review this submission then please comment on this thread so that others know you're doing a review (so as not to duplicate effort). Something as simple as :hand: I am reviewing this will suffice.

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Any questions, please ask for help by commenting on this issue! 🚀

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

For the paper PDF, references after the first one aren't displayed quite right. Would using a semicolon between them (rather than a comma) be the fix?

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Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman avatar Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman commented on August 20, 2024

I have reviewed this submission in terms of MATLAB implementation and installation. I have also verified the demo and benchmark work as described. However I am not an expert in the technical topic the software addresses. Would it be possible to provide a more graphical display of the functionality and technical claims of the software, i.e. plot graphs and figures visualizing the nature of the input data, the processing and the output results? Perhaps if the functionality can be described more thoroughly and graphically in this manor users new to this field may be able to grasp functionality better.

I tested this submission using MATLAB R2016b PreRelease.

I can confirm installation (of the software and the third party SparseBayes V2 toolbox) and implementation proceeded as described in the README.md.

I was able to install the software and run the demo.m.

Comments on paper:
Check spelling for “lregularization” in paper
Fix spelling error “which camn be obtained” in paper
Does the figure need a caption/description, like in the README.md?
Check the references. Is the author missing for the reference: “Sparse Bayesian Learning and the Relevance Vector Machine”

In README.md check spelling for: “regression lead to”. Should this be “leads”?

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman, thanks for the review! I've fixed the typos and missing figure caption (was in paper.md, but not PDF). Reference is correct (is same as previous, 'line' notation is produced when PDF is compiled).
In demo.m, I have now added some scatter plots for evaluating the predictions.

@arfon, the subsequent references still look incorrect in the PDF. I've also made a few changes, so maybe you could re-compile the PDF?

@labarba, yes, these are paid MATLAB toolboxes, though (most) educational institutions that have MATLAB licences would also have these toolboxes. More broadly, I think any restriction on dependencies would preclude many MATLAB-based projects from being published in JOSS.

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024

@cMadan - I've recompiled the paper here. Could you take a look and see if it's formatted better now?

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@arfon - much better! The only remaining issue is this "(e.g., (Sowell et al. 2003; Hogstrom et al. 2013; Madan and Kensinger 2016))". I'm not sure how I should change the md to make that turn out better. Effectively want something equivalent to "\cite<e.g.,>{REFS}".

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nicoguaro avatar nicoguaro commented on August 20, 2024

I think that instead of the logo an image of a result would be much illustrative.

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@nicoguaro - I've just added example output.

@arfon - that's sufficiently better, thanks! I really appreciate the help! I've updated paper.md on the repo.

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024

@arfon - that's sufficiently better, thanks! I really appreciate the help! I've updated paper.md on the repo.

OK great. Here's the updated paper: 10.21105.joss.00031.pdf

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@arfon - that looks great, thanks!

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Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman avatar Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman commented on August 20, 2024

Thanks for implementing the changes and for adding basic visualizations of results in demo.m. For the paper it seems that the reference with the title: "Sparse Bayesian Learning and the Relevance Vector Machine" misses an author field. Should this be Michael E. Tipping?
I've now ticked all the boxes above. Once the reference for the paper is verified I can recommend this paper for publication in JOSS.

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Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman avatar Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman commented on August 20, 2024

There is as you know an ongoing discussion on the inclusion of software relying on proprietary programming environments. It may be that a final decision on your submission will be made after that discussion has been concluded. Apologies for the delay.

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nicoguaro avatar nicoguaro commented on August 20, 2024

Even though I'm not an editor I think that the output of the discussion should not influence the publication of this paper. This paper was submitted before the discussion even started, if it would have started before maybe the author would have not submitted.

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman - The author is Tipping, but it is being displayed 'properly'. The PDF is compiled from markdown+bib by @arfon's code, and is based on an IEEE convention. See here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/29381/is-it-normal-for-bibtex-to-replace-similar-author-names-with

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@arfon - I think all of the reviewer comments have been addressed, and the paper has been recommended for publication.

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024

OK thanks @cMadan. I just need you to update this thread with the archive DOI (Zenodo/figshare etc) for the software before I can complete the submission.

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@arfon - the doi is 10.5281/zenodo.56821. I don't think I can edit the initial comment from @whedon.

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

I just noticed that under the second figure, it says "Figure 1" (that isn't in the markdown itself). I made a change to paper.md that hopefully fixes this.

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arfon avatar arfon commented on August 20, 2024

@cMadan - could you take a look now and if this is better? https://github.com/openjournals/joss-papers/blob/master/joss.00031/10.21105.joss.00031.pdf

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cMadan avatar cMadan commented on August 20, 2024

@arfon - great, thank you!

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