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sfadschm avatar sfadschm commented on September 6, 2024 1

Fair enough, I totally forgot about the manual path as this was never an option with my setup.

However, to contribute to the discussion, I believe there are plenty of admins using the updater to do the task, be it out of laziness or because someone is not so prone with scripting or the command line.

That being said, technically, I would say #711 is a breaking change and should be fixed. See #726.

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phil-davis avatar phil-davis commented on September 6, 2024 1

https://download.owncloud.com/server/stable/owncloud-latest.tar.bz2 has an updater folder with the current real code of the updater repo from 2023-07-14 - good.
This commit bumped the version:
ee951f0

Note: commits since then are only vendor dependency bumps, none of which are really important. They are not in updater/vendor of the latest core 10.13.4 tarball. So the updater code is not being routinely updated into each core release tarball. I suppose that @jnweiger did some explicit action to provide 1.1.0 to the core release in July 2023.

Closing this issue - this has been effectively "released". Installations will get the "release" after they upgrade to a recent release. There is no automated/scripted way to update the updater in a existing older installation. So it can be a bit of a catch-22 if someone needs the updated updater in order to update!

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iasdeoupxe avatar iasdeoupxe commented on September 6, 2024 1

Some related notes:

I have raised owncloud/core#41149 and suggested to disable the (Web-)Updater by default.

it's not an ownCloud app. It's a standalone web upgrade subsystem.

Even the docs of ownCloud says it is an app so there seems to be some confusion around this ☹️

Upgrading ownCloud with the Updater App

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jnweiger avatar jnweiger commented on September 6, 2024

https://github.com/owncloud/updater/releases/download/v1.1.0-rc.1/updater-v1.1.0-rc.1.tar.gz

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jnweiger avatar jnweiger commented on September 6, 2024

@phil-davis I don't think I can make a release for this.

  • It does not have an appinfo/info.xml and cannot be installed with core 10.12.2
  • what exactly would this app do? I don't find any clear dcumentation around here.
  • I am not even sure it is a proper app.

It probably should be archived or deleted.

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phil-davis avatar phil-davis commented on September 6, 2024

I don't know the history of this app. It previously had releases tagged v10.1.0 v10.1.1 so somehow it used to "go with" core releases. Then there was a 1.0.0 release https://github.com/owncloud/updater/releases/tag/v1.0.0 in 2019.

I have just maintained CI so that the unit tests etc keep passing. I don't know who actually uses this app. So maybe archive it?

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iasdeoupxe avatar iasdeoupxe commented on September 6, 2024

#726 / owncloud/core#41057: app seems to be still used

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VicDeo avatar VicDeo commented on September 6, 2024

@jnweiger it's not an ownCloud app. It's a standalone web upgrade subsystem.
To stress this out it is located not in the apps folder but in a separate updater directory of the release package.

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VicDeo avatar VicDeo commented on September 6, 2024

As I see owncloud-complete-20231009.zip includes all the changes from #711 so basically release was done.

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sfadschm avatar sfadschm commented on September 6, 2024

#726 / owncloud/core#41057: app seems to be still used

How else would we update Owncloud Core on a live server? This is also where the admin panel guides us when a new version is available.

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iasdeoupxe avatar iasdeoupxe commented on September 6, 2024

How else would we update Owncloud Core on a live server?

Manual update is the way to go / recommended:

https://doc.owncloud.com/server/10.13/admin_manual/maintenance/upgrading/upgrade.html#upgrade-options

Same page also says about the updater:

This is not the recommended upgrade procedure, as builtin core upgrade scripts are error prone.

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iasdeoupxe avatar iasdeoupxe commented on September 6, 2024

While i agree that this should be fixed:

Keep in mind that even if some one of ownCloud is fixing this issue your current installation is still having the updater in the current broken state and a fix is only included in the next ownCloud version (AFAICT and when reading the previous comments it is not updated separately like done for apps).

So personally i wouldn't wait until some one of them is fixing the issue and just go ahead with the manual update.

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