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RealRaven2000 avatar RealRaven2000 commented on August 16, 2024

Hi,

would it be possible to add a filter of filters on the filter pane? With this I mean a search box for looking up key words not in the title of the filter but within the filters itself. There was an addon called "Filter of filters" in earlier versions that allowed such searches but it got discontinued and I think it would perfectly fit quickFilters.

Something like this?

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El-Pazzo avatar El-Pazzo commented on August 16, 2024

Hi,

not really. This integrated filter does not offer to search within all (basic) actions, it only partly functional. The addon I mean is this one:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/filter-of-filters/?src=search

You only had the search field but no options like in normal TB search. Whatever you typed in got searched against all possible filter conditions, the selections on the left as well as the fields and values on the right within a filter.

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RealRaven2000 avatar RealRaven2000 commented on August 16, 2024

my various methods may be a like more specific but you can

  • search all search conditions for a string ( this should cover things like subject line, mail body or email addresses
  • search actions that modify or set strings
  • search tags
  • search folder names (if filter move mails to a folder)

searching the left hand part (e.g. the string "sender") doesn't appear particularly useful.

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RealRaven2000 avatar RealRaven2000 commented on August 16, 2024

So in light of my last comment ... what exactly are we missing? A catch-all settings that searches both (text-only) conditions and (text-based) actions with one search field? This could also search tabs and folder names...

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El-Pazzo avatar El-Pazzo commented on August 16, 2024

Hi,

well I'm mainly missing to be able to search for the actions themselves: delete, forward to (unaware of the recipient), copy, move, aso. In fact to be able to search filters for everything you can actually do with a filter.

e.g. you have about 100 filters and you know you have a few that delete messages, or copy them to another folder but do not know which filter it is. You search delete, copy or whatever and get those filters that contain that action. Ok, normally you should know your filters but the longer they are in use, you tend to forget what every filter does, or you work in a company and have a few admins who set up filters and the next one wants to know if a certain filter with a certain action or condition has already been set.

Right now I tend to open the msgrules file in Notepadd++ and search for the action or whatever, but it's a bit ineffective due to the switching of programme and also due to the format you see the filters.

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RealRaven2000 avatar RealRaven2000 commented on August 16, 2024

Hi,

well I'm mainly missing to be able to search for the actions themselves: delete, forward to (unaware of the recipient), copy, move, aso. In fact to be able to search filters for everything you can actually do with a filter.

e.g. you have about 100 filters and you know you have a few that delete messages, or copy them to another folder but do not know which filter it is. You search delete, copy or whatever and get those filters that contain that action.

so there is a problem with this: it actually must be aware of localization. So in the German Thunderbird you would have to look for the word "Löschen" instead of "delete", and the word "verschieben" instead of "move":

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so that's a little trickier than I thought. What you are saying is a search by "action type" not the actual "action value" - is this correct? Does the Add-on you quoted (filter of filters) and that stopped being compatible after Thunderbird version 16 (seven years ago) work with languages other than English? We could add the action type, but it's clearly going to be a lot of work. Just making sure I understand what you are suggesting.

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El-Pazzo avatar El-Pazzo commented on August 16, 2024

If I remember well it worked until last year and I could use Löschen instead of delete, so it must be action type.

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RealRaven2000 avatar RealRaven2000 commented on August 16, 2024

If I remember well it worked until last year and I could use Löschen instead of delete, so it must be action type.

ok if you have a version that works in Tb60 I might have a look how he has done it - can you attach it here? Did you hack the max ver in install.rdf?

note that its not allowed attaching xpi files in comments, just rename it as zip file (internally it's the same anyway)...

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El-Pazzo avatar El-Pazzo commented on August 16, 2024

Hi,

here we go. From what I saw in my TB this one got installed/updated on April 2017 and if I remember well, it worked until TB 68.

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