Are there options for disabling certain UI elements? about apostrophe-editor-2 HOT 13 CLOSED

This should be addressed as a design question first - does it make sense to disable these things? When? @tquirino @stuartromanek @kylestetz

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Kerry, what would the desired outcome be of setting draggable to false? Disabling reordering altogether, or just dragging? (We are planning on having up/down arrows which are not in the interface right now).

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Disabling dragging. More interested in disabling that "add in between these widgets" button. I think it adds a lot of bloat and confusion in most cases.

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I agree that the option to disable dragging and add content buttons within each piece of content would be nice. Or perhaps, given our desire to be more intentional, they should be off by default and we should specify them only when we want them?

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I am curious whether we will still feel this way once we have classy little
icons instead of big horking words (:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Kyle Stetz [email protected]:

I agree that the option to disable dragging and add content buttons within
each piece of content would be nice. Or perhaps, given our desire to be
more intentional, they should be off by default and we should specify them
only when we want them?

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I'm going to echo Kyle's point that we should be more intentional and only
turn it on in layouts that it makes sense to be able to drag-to-reorder
content.

Tim Quirino
Interactive Designer

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Tom Boutell [email protected]:

I am curious whether we will still feel this way once we have classy
little
icons instead of big horking words (:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Kyle Stetz [email protected]:

I agree that the option to disable dragging and add content buttons
within
each piece of content would be nice. Or perhaps, given our desire to be
more intentional, they should be off by default and we should specify
them
only when we want them?

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I understand the desire to be intentional, but I have a super hard time
understanding in what project a user would want to be able to add more than
one of something, but not be able to reorder them except by trashing them
and starting over.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Tim Quirino [email protected]:

I'm going to echo Kyle's point that we should be more intentional and only
turn it on in layouts that it makes sense to be able to drag-to-reorder
content.

Tim Quirino
Interactive Designer

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Tom Boutell [email protected]:

I am curious whether we will still feel this way once we have classy
little
icons instead of big horking words (:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Kyle Stetz [email protected]:

I agree that the option to disable dragging and add content buttons
within
each piece of content would be nice. Or perhaps, given our desire to
be
more intentional, they should be off by default and we should specify
them
only when we want them?

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So I should phrase this as a question: when does it make sense to disable
reordering? What's the use case?

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tom Boutell [email protected] wrote:

I understand the desire to be intentional, but I have a super hard time
understanding in what project a user would want to be able to add more than
one of something, but not be able to reorder them except by trashing them
and starting over.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Tim Quirino [email protected]:

I'm going to echo Kyle's point that we should be more intentional and
only
turn it on in layouts that it makes sense to be able to drag-to-reorder
content.

Tim Quirino
Interactive Designer

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Tom Boutell [email protected]:

I am curious whether we will still feel this way once we have classy
little
icons instead of big horking words (:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Kyle Stetz [email protected]:

I agree that the option to disable dragging and add content buttons
within
each piece of content would be nice. Or perhaps, given our desire to
be
more intentional, they should be off by default and we should specify
them
only when we want them?

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Sorry... to clarify, I was talking about disabling dragging, not reordering. You can't really turn reordering off. I feel less strongly about turning the add content button off... I don't see it as being in the way. @colpanik do you find the add content menu confusing because it's not implied where the content is being added?

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Maybe ---------------- + --------------------- bars between the items which
double as dropzones so the height of the dropzones is constant

Maybe there's one of them at the top too replacing "Add Content", since we
need a dropzone at the top too

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Kyle Stetz [email protected] wrote:

Sorry... to clarify, I was talking about disabling dragging, not
reordering. You can't really turn reordering off. I feel less strongly
about turning the add content button off... I don't see it as being in the
way. @colpanik https://github.com/colpanik do you find the add content
menu confusing because it's not implied where the content is being added?

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I drew it on the board. I kinda dig it.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Tom Boutell [email protected] wrote:

Maybe ---------------- + --------------------- bars between the items
which double as dropzones so the height of the dropzones is constant

Maybe there's one of them at the top too replacing "Add Content", since we
need a dropzone at the top too

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Kyle Stetz [email protected]:

Sorry... to clarify, I was talking about disabling dragging, not
reordering. You can't really turn reordering off. I feel less strongly
about turning the add content button off... I don't see it as being in the
way. @colpanik https://github.com/colpanik do you find the add content
menu confusing because it's not implied where the content is being added?

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Tom, it's an interesting idea. I wonder if those would be a little overbearing between every bit of content. I'm also worried that we're heading in a direction where the controls are only visible when you hover over a piece of content, and this idea sort of breaks that paradigm.

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I am closing this ticket for now because none of the buttons seem particularly in the way now that we have a tight little design. You can reopen if you feel strongly.

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