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zr5177 avatar zr5177 commented on May 24, 2024

Yes, I have these confusions too. How to solve Tiny tlp? Or what causes it.

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ufrisk avatar ufrisk commented on May 24, 2024

Some hardware is more sensitive to legacy hardware or broken config spaces and won't allow you to perform 4KB PCIe reads - hence PCILeech downgrades to "tiny algorithm" automatically in those cases. I don't really know why it works fine on some hardware and not on other hardware.

Normal algorithm is 4kB PCIe reads.
Tiny algorithm is 128 byte PCIe reads.

Issue with Tiny algorithm and PCILeech is that PCILeech will quickly exhaust available PCIe tags due to the relatively high USB latency and this will result in a rather large performance impact as compared to the normal 4kB PCIe reads. If a 4kB normal PCIe reads will use 1 tag a tiny read of 4kB will use 32 tags (32*128 = 4kB).

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CottonCollecter avatar CottonCollecter commented on May 24, 2024

So this issue depends on user motherboard ?Does there have any way to solve

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ufrisk avatar ufrisk commented on May 24, 2024

It depends on the motherboard (or even BIOS version) together with the firmware. Sometimes flashing the default firmware will resolve things and then there is an error with the modified firmware. Sometimes this does not work and if a BIOS flash/upgrade does not work I know some have purchased another motherboard.

My best guess is that this is due to a bad interaction with custom firmware, it's quite common from what I've heard...

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